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SandMan
12-17-02, 10:58 PM
Shit, I'm not sold on Vanilla Ice yet, being a tarheel fan and all, but I'm looking at some of the teams Duke plays to start its year every year, and I say... they are why mens basketball needs a BCS Bowl versus playoffs... and I hate the BCS system... :rolleyes:

WYDD
12-17-02, 11:45 PM
wow sandy, you know, you can talk smack about football all you want, because i honestly think you care alot more about football than i. But, you're full of shit. I have said that this year duke is playing the weakest schedule in a long time. But, this schedule does not resemble anything close to what duke has played in the past.

Funny, when carolina cupcakes didn't pan out, it wasn't shitty scheduling. That's in reference to last year, which i hate to do.

Also, last time i checked, duke's strength of schedule was more difficult than the "back down to earth" tarheels.

SandMan
12-18-02, 12:19 AM
Please show me any fact where Duke's strenght of schedule to start this season, i. e the first 7 or 8 games is rated more difficult than the tarheels.

Show me some facts, show me some non Duke related sites. You might be able to show me total year... thats not my beef. My beef is, Duke plays a bunch of pussies every year to start the year....

PanthersReturn
12-18-02, 08:18 AM
Here's a link for Sandy:http://teamrankings.com/ncb/27powerratings.php3

And Sandy, to confirm and clarify - the difference between UNC and Duke is, Duke BEATS those teams they are supposed to beat. Last season (which I love to reference), the squeeHeels lost to some major power-houses...

:rolleyes:
This year, the babies in lite blue (aka, Smurfs), look better. They couldn't have been worse, could they?

The Brain
12-18-02, 08:25 AM
UNC Schedule Ranking - 92
Duke Schedule Ranking - 319

Yup Sandy'r right PRETTY big difference

The Brain
12-18-02, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by PanthersReturn
And Sandy, to confirm and clarify - the difference between UNC and Duke is, Duke BEATS those teams they are supposed to beat. Last season (which I love to reference), the squeeHeels lost to some major power-houses...NC A&T could beat some of the Dukey's opponents.... so that's not bragging... UNC is 5-2 there ONLY loses coming to ranked teams... so who aren't they beating that they were supposed to??

PanthersReturn
12-18-02, 09:02 AM
Brain, my reference to LAST season for the Heels included Hampton, Davidson and some small school from NY...Binghampton?

The Heels beat Stanford and Kansas, which aren't setting the world on fire. Last year, the Heels lost to what was supposed to be the easy games on their schedule. This year, they haven't yet.

The Heels don't have depth nor height, but I'm sure they'll give Duke a couple of good games.

In regard to schedule strength, I'm sure you already calculated the algorithms used to produce the "rankings". It won't matter much when the teams step on the court. Looking forward to shearing your little sheep...

The Brain
12-18-02, 09:04 AM
we should all start a UNC/Duke betting pool dammit... :)

slydevl
12-18-02, 09:19 AM
This year Duke does have a week schedule. But for Sandy to say they do every year is just another one of those idiotic statements for which he has become famous and generally reviled.

slydevl
12-18-02, 09:20 AM
Got this quote from a recent article about injuries the Heels have had lately. Gotta love it:

"After the game against Vermont (3-4), one of the best teams in the America East conference, UNC travels Sunday to Tallahassee, Fla., for its ACC opener against Florida State. But Doherty said he won't hold anybody back to save them for the Seminoles"

SandMan
12-18-02, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by slydevl
This year Duke does have a week schedule. But for Sandy to say they do every year is just another one of those idiotic statements for which he has become famous and generally reviled.

No just shows how you have not learned to fucking read yet. I said, Duke's schedule to "start the season", then went on to further clarify before you jumped in that I wanted to see facts where Dukes schedule the first 7-8 games is rated higher.

Glad I'm famous for something... but with guys like you being part of the voting party, it'll be ok... :cool:

SandMan
12-18-02, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by The Brain
UNC Schedule Ranking - 92
Duke Schedule Ranking - 319

Yup Sandy'r right PRETTY big difference

Brain... use it. - I said to start the season... where is the stat that shows Duke has a stronger schedule to start the season???

slydevl
12-18-02, 09:46 AM
Highlights of first 10 games of some recent seasons:

2000-2001
Princeton, Villanova, Texas, Temple - twice, Illinois, Michigan, Stanford

1999-2000
Stanford, Connecticut, USC, Illinois, DePaul, Michigan

1998-1999
Notre Dame, Fresno State, Cincinnatti, Michigan State, NC State, Florida, Michigan, go to 12 games and you get Kentucky

Just futher proof Sandy is borderline retarded.

Originally posted by SandMan
My beef is, Duke plays a bunch of pussies every year to start the year....

SandMan
12-18-02, 09:47 AM
Duke
1. Army
2. Davidson
3. UCLA
4. Ohio State
5. Michigan
6. NC A&T
7. Dayton
8. Fairfield

That looks like a weak starting schedule to me. Also, I did not say they always had an easier schedule than the heels.

"but I'm looking at some of the teams Duke plays to start its year every year, and I say... they are why mens basketball needs a BCS Bowl versus playoffs.."

Duke does traditionally start with a light schedule, IMO. There is not need to get huffy and say the Heels is lighter or not. I started the thread about Dukes schedule, not the Tarheels.

slydevl
12-18-02, 09:49 AM
Sandy just admit you are a fucking moron and move along.

The Heels have played some high name recognition teams this year but it turns out they are not that good.

PanthersReturn
12-18-02, 10:11 AM
Sandy, WHY would you want to use a BCS format for NCAA Hoops? If you don't think a tournament is the best way to determine the best team at the end of the season...then what? It's like having a comprehensive final for your toughest course.

To me, basketball season is a marathon, not a sprint. If you start slow, you still have a chance at the end...

slydevl
12-18-02, 10:19 AM
The point that he even posted this thread shows what an idiot Sandy is.


"Oooooh your schedule over the course of the year may be perennially tougher than ours but oooh oooh for first 8 games, ours is usually harder than yours. Yep, thats something to be proud of. We rule the first 3rd of the season. Wooooo hooooo go Heels."

Shrapnel
12-18-02, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by SandMan
they are why mens basketball needs a BCS Bowl versus playoffs... and I hate the BCS system... :rolleyes:

I ain't a fan of either of them but... unlike college football, there is a playoff, so whether they play all cupcakes out of conference, doesn't really matter, since they play in, and usually finish near the top of, one of the premier conferences in the country.

If their conference was shit, then they better beef up to get in.

slydevl
12-18-02, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Shrapnel


I ain't a fan of either of them but... unlike college football, there is a playoff, so whether they play all cupcakes out of conference, doesn't really matter, since they play in, and usually finish near the top of, one of the premier conferences in the country.

If their conference was shit, then they better beef up to get in.

WTF!!! :thinking:

wheres the sexual innuendo......the crass bodily function humor?

Shrapnel
12-18-02, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by slydevl


WTF!!! :thinking:

wheres the sexual innuendo......the crass bodily function humor?

I have a hangnail today. Layoff.

WYDD
12-18-02, 11:06 AM
well, i'm guessing that sandy is looking for a silver lining in the two loss beginning of carolina's season. Duke doesn't schedule it's opponent for the big 10 challenge so it ain't dukes fault they played Ohio State. Duke's been running with michigan for a while now. They actually played michigan when michigan was good. Now they ain't. Oh well, they still gotta play the contractual games. Coach K always runs with army since he used to coach there. EVERYBODY has their cupcake games to begin with. How about the PROFESSIONAL teams in england that duke played as exhibitions earlier. I mean, they aren't TEAM NIKE or anything.

I guess next year, if duke plays in a tourney to begin the year, and unc don't, i'll start a thread talking about how normally duke plays a tougher first 3 games of the season than carolina.

Damn, some of you guys are reaching.

SandMan
12-18-02, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by slydevl
The point that he even posted this thread shows what an idiot Sandy is.



You have got to be the biggest dick on this board. Shut the fuck up and drop it.

SandMan
12-18-02, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by PanthersReturn
Sandy, WHY would you want to use a BCS format for NCAA Hoops? If you don't think a tournament is the best way to determine the best team at the end of the season...then what? It's like having a comprehensive final for your toughest course.

To me, basketball season is a marathon, not a sprint. If you start slow, you still have a chance at the end...

Actually I would'nt that was intended to be a slam on Dukes easy opening schedule. Duke and Coach K have a great program, does not change the fact I hate Duke. But they are still very good despite their lame ass opening schedule. The Tarheels sucked last year, should finish in the middle of the ACC this year should get their 20 wins... I can handle the one bad year they had.

I hate the BCS format for the record as it would apply to any sport.

slydevl
12-18-02, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by SandMan


You have got to be the biggest dick on this board. Shut the fuck up and drop it.

Well....maybe the second biggest.....

magnus
12-18-02, 10:32 PM
Domination of any major schedule is usually a pretty good indication of how good you are. I don't know what the point was trying to say exactly, but the point wasn't made IMO.

Piper
12-18-02, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by SandMan


You have got to have biggest dick on this board. Shut me the fuck up and drop it.