Cholesterol and Triglycerides

[Fred]

My sis in law drew some blood last week and sent it off thru the lab she works in and my cholesterol and trig level was much better than expected. I hadn't had them checked in 5 years. Cholesterol was 210 which is high average and the Trig level was 170- just a little over the limit.

I truly believe it is all genetic. I know people that watch every bite and exercise a lot, and still their levels are way high. other eat what they want (including my dad) and his is always pefect. I hope I take after my Dad's side- they all live long healthy lives while my mothers side all drop at a young age even tho none of them were heavy.

[LLG]

you're a brat Fred! :mad:



seriously, congrats on the great news!

[Fred]

I was expecting much worse.

[HighPoint49er]

Not bad Fred. But just a note, my cholesterol was at 177 when I had my second heart attack.

[Fred]

Originally posted by HighPoint49er
Not bad Fred. But just a note, my cholesterol was at 177 when I had my second heart attack.
oh thanks. I'll go kill a gallon of ice cream before bed in that case.

[Derbygal]

They gonna put you on meds Fred? I take Lipitor, it works great but you have to keep having blood drawn because it can cause liver damage.

[HighPoint49er]

Originally posted by Fred

oh thanks. I'll go kill a gallon of ice cream before bed in that case.
Just don't eat the coconut pie afterwards. :D

[Fred]

Originally posted by Derbygal
They gonna put you on meds Fred? I take Lipitor, it works great but you have to keep having blood drawn because it can cause liver damage. Heck no! I dont even have a family doctor up here. Other than having an ENT drill my sinuses, I haven't been to a doc in ages. I don't go for that. They skeer me! My sis in law just drew then for me because she works in a lab. The other blood work- the liver panel, TSH, Chem Panel, CBC and all were perfect.



Love the avatar Derby. You've got a little evil streak in you. You're gonna fit in jusssst fine here.

[Fred]

Originally posted by HighPoint49er

Just don't eat the coconut pie afterwards. :D
coconut cream pie..... oh!:mushy: :mushy: :mushy:

[HighPoint49er]

Originally posted by Derbygal
They gonna put you on meds Fred? I take Lipitor, it works great but you have to keep having blood drawn because it can cause liver damage.
I've taken about all of them, Zocor, Mevacor, Lipitor and now back to Zocor for insurance purposes. It's wonderful having the luck of getting Nurse Vampira in the lab to draw blood too, had to stick me 3 times on the last visit before she hit a vein.

[Fred]

Originally posted by HighPoint49er

It's wonderful having the luck of getting Nurse Vampira in the lab to draw blood too, had to stick me 3 times on the last visit before she hit a vein.
3 times? Newbie I bet. Hell, I can hit a vein on a 106 yo woman on the 2nd attempt at worst! Have you ever tried to draw blood on a fat little 106 yo woman? It's like wildcat drilling for oil!

[SandMan]

240 :mad:

[SilverSurfer]

Mine's 250. My mom's is 260 and she never eats meat, only salad and fruit. My dads is high. Both of my grandfathers had high cholesterol, if you can believe the measurements back then. All grandparents lived to well past 80 and no heart problems. I'm hoping its genetic, cause I'm not taking any of that cholesterol lowering stuff. None of my family ever has. I know people that take it and it seems to cause more problems than the high cholesterol would.

What problems do high tricglycerides cause?

[HighPoint49er]

Originally posted by SilverSurfer
What problems do high tricglycerides cause?

Triglycerides (TGs) are a group of fatty compounds that circulate in the bloodstream and are stored in the fat tissue. Individuals who have elevated blood levels of TGs (known as hypertriglyceridemia) appear to be at increased risk of developing heart disease. People with diabetes often have elevated TG levels. Successfully controlling diabetes will, in some cases, lead to normalization of TG levels.

Very high triglycerides can cause pancreatitis, an enlarged liver and spleen, and fatty deposits in the skin called xanthomas. Otherwise, high triglycerides may not cause symptoms until and unless heart disease or other diseases of blood vessels develop.

People with high triglycerides are typically advised to reduce their weight and limit the consumption of processed foods, simple sugars, alcohol, and saturated fats (found predominantly in animal products, [e.g., meat, eggs, and dairy products], and tropical oils [e.g., palm and coconut oils]). In some cases, conventional treatment includes niacin supplementation and the prescription medication gemfibrozil (Lopid®, Gemcor®).

[Fred]

Originally posted by HighPoint49er


Triglycerides (TGs) are a group of fatty compounds that circulate in the bloodstream and are stored in the fat tissue. Individuals who have elevated blood levels of TGs (known as hypertriglyceridemia) appear to be at increased risk of developing heart disease. People with diabetes often have elevated TG levels. Successfully controlling diabetes will, in some cases, lead to normalization of TG levels.

Very high triglycerides can cause pancreatitis, an enlarged liver and spleen, and fatty deposits in the skin called xanthomas. Otherwise, high triglycerides may not cause symptoms until and unless heart disease or other diseases of blood vessels develop.

People with high triglycerides are typically advised to reduce their weight and limit the consumption of processed foods, simple sugars, alcohol, and saturated fats (found predominantly in animal products, [e.g., meat, eggs, and dairy products], and tropical oils [e.g., palm and coconut oils]). In some cases, conventional treatment includes niacin supplementation and the prescription medication gemfibrozil (Lopid®, Gemcor®).
Looks like someone went and educated themself after they had a heart attack! :xyzthumbs

[HighPoint49er]

Originally posted by Fred
Looks like someone went and educated themself after they had a heart attack! :xyzthumbs
Educated myself yes... practicing what I read is another story Fred. :shakehead

[SilverSurfer]

While we're on health subjects, are there any diet drinks out there that don't have Aspartame that taste worth a shit? I despise diet drinks but I've got to switch, the liter of coke I drink every day is not helping my weight any. I heard Aspartame was terrible for you, but so far I can't find any without it.

[Fred]

Originally posted by SilverSurfer
While we're on health subjects, are there any diet drinks out there that don't have Aspartame that taste worth a shit? I despise diet drinks but I've got to switch, the liter of coke I drink every day is not helping my weight any. I heard Aspartame was terrible for you, but so far I can't find any without it.
Switching to water here. I love my Diet SunDrop but it's gonna eat up my kidneys. And despite popular belief, well water sucks!

[Tiorted Snoil]

Silver...DietRite is aspratame and sodium free....the best flavor IMO is orange....no caffeine either which sucks.

Have you tried taking flax seed or fish oil supplements fred?

[Fred]

Originally posted by Tiorted Snoil
Have you tried taking flax seed or fish oil supplements fred? For what? My levels are in the high normal range- better than they were 5 years ago when i had them checked.

[Tiorted Snoil]

Originally posted by Fred
For what? My levels are in the high normal range- better than they were 5 years ago when i had them checked.

those are the "good fats"...Omega 3s. They are basically impossible to get on a normal diet. They support "good" cholesterol and lower the bad.

[hasbeens99]

Originally posted by Fred
I hadn't had them checked in 5 years. Cholesterol was 210 which is high average...

But not at all bad for the South. My father in law's cholesterol came in at WAY over 300 a couple of years ago. (I'm wanting to say it was 600, but I don't know if that's possible.) I shudder to think of what my mom's might be. She's a truly awesome Southern cook, but dang, the woman uses bacon fat to season just about everything, and rarely enjoys a meal without homemade gravy.

[Tiorted Snoil]

this is a quote from a bally fitness "fit tip:"

Over the years, we’ve been deluged with data and advice on how to
prevent heart disease. Fortunately, a recent report in the
Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) has simplified
things.

The authors of the report analyzed over 100 studies to determine
which foods and eating strategies are most effective in
preventing coronary heart disease. Their findings:

1. Use unsaturated fats – especially polyunsaturated fats –
instead of saturated fats and trans fats ("hydrogenated oils").
For example, use plant-based oils such as olive, canola and soy
oils instead of butter or margarine in cooking and baking.

2. Consume more omega-3 fatty acids from fish oils and plant
sources.

3. Eat a diet that’s high in fruits, vegetables and whole grains.

And, of course, following ALL of these steps rather than just one
can increase the health benefits.

[PantherPaul]

Fred it is ALL genetic. I had my blood test done before dieting and all and Cholestrol was 286. Went extreme low fat and cholestrol for 6 months. I mean I can count on one hand the times I ate something I knew I shouldn't eat like a pad of butter, a hamburger etc. Anyway I loered my cholestrol down a whopping 4 points! Very discouraged. Anyway I have been on Provachol for 6 months and lowed numbers down to 240 then have since been on Lipator 20 mg for over 8 years and get blood work ups every 4 months. My cholestrol is around 170 and tryglycerids are all good as well as good and bad cholestrols being great. All this with little changing of diet. Scarey thing though today. A co worker had chest pains last night and was admited to Piedmont hospital today for a triple by pass! He is only 47 years old and exercised often was religious about what he ate and damn near died. My sister in law is a pediatric pharmisist at Duke hospital and said that the type of drug I am on (not sure) is the new "In thing" for doctors to prescribe to patients who have ANY family history of heart disease or heart attack. It thins the blood and keeps the body from producing more cholestrol than needed. I feel like and seem to have proved that your either going to have high cholestrol or not because of genetics. Diet helps some people but not those that have genes against us. Go talk to your doctor about lipator. Good stuff and no side effects at all (liver)

[SilverSurfer]

Mine are high. :rolleyes5: