Fucking stupid ass COPS!

[Fro]

Video shows police killing dog (http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/09/police.kill.dog/index.html)

This just really pisses me off.

[vpkozel]

I can't bring myself to watch the video, but from reading the transcript, this is bullshit. I am writing the authorities involved.

[imonlyhuman]

Fuckers.

[Puttingood]

That little dog was just wagging his tail and playing. That is so wrong. The cop was in no danger. That cop sucks and he better lose his job if he can not make better decisions than that.
Fuckin Asshole !:mad:

[Puttingood]

I am writing the authorities involved.

Me too and am going to try to join any movement to boycott that town and county till the cop is fired and charged.:mad:

[Farmer]

you know...... I went out there and bought that stupid real player thing a while back so I could see all these videos, etc.

Now if I wanna see this - I have to buy a super real pass or a CNN news pass.... eventually you'll just have to buy something else... wtf....

[Puttingood]

I just clicked and chose to watch it in Media Player. It came right up.

[SandMan]

Just another fat ass cop hiding behind a gun, hell that dog could have been chewing on his pants leg and not caused any harm. What a pussy.

[Piper]

He's a dumbass. Thought they had some bank robbers. Open your eyes. And find a new line of work, something that doesn't involve you holding any weapons or holding any sort of authority.

[Franchise]

i can't c it :(, im not a subsriber to cnn newspass. could someone lend me that, or download it and send it to me? i read about it this morning, but i wanna c it.

[barracuda]

I think the Cop should be "put down" SOB

[twin$]

Funny thing is, this dog will get more support than an innocent person that is shot by the police.:mad:

[gridfaniker]

Originally posted by twin$
Funny thing is, this dog will get more support than an innocent person that is shot by the police.:mad:

Innocent people never get shot by the PO-leese.

[builder]

Originally posted by gridfaniker
Innocent people never get shot by the PO-leese.

[vpkozel]

Here is the link to the cookville police (http://www.cookevillepolice.com/) . They already have a bullshit statement up about how the officer was being threatened and the dog being a pitbull.

I'll find the Tennessee HP and post that too.

[twin$]

Originally posted by gridfaniker


Innocent people never get shot by the PO-leese.

hmmm, I guess innocent people don't get plungers stuck up their a$$ by the police either:rolleyes:

[gutter]

Originally posted by twin$
Funny thing is, this dog will get more support than an innocent person that is shot by the police.:mad:

Yep. Dogs are better than humans anyway. Animal cruelty is the worst kind of cruelty.

[kshead]

Originally posted by twin$


hmmm, I guess innocent people don't get plungers stuck up their a$$ by the police either:rolleyes:

Hey - there's no need to bring Fred and Builder into this.

[twin$]

Originally posted by kshead


Hey - there's no need to bring Fred and Builder into this.

Fred? Is that the name of the Cop in The Village People?

[vpkozel]

The Tennessee Highway Patrol webpage for the Cookeville district. There is a comments link for e-mail on this page.

Tenn. HP (http://www.state.tn.us/safety/thp/districtsix.htm)

[Franchise]

i c how it is, franchise dont get no love :(

[builder]

Originally posted by vpkozel
Here is the link to the cookville police (http://www.cookevillepolice.com/) .

:D It's not working now.

[Rumpeltiltspin]

Originally posted by twin$
Funny thing is, this dog will get more support than an innocent person that is shot by the police.:mad:

And them peoples running from, or shooting, at the po-leese
are all are innocent - right?

Apparently that dumbass cop doesn't know the difference between a playful and a violent dog. Since his judge of character is that far off, he should have desk duty forever- if he even keeps his job. He should never be allowed to carry a gun again.

It's cops like that which give all the others who ARE honest, hard working, putting up with shit, and under paid, a bad name.

[builder]

You know...think about it. You've got a pitbull with reputations that aren't "playful" coming at you while the people you've just pulled over are currently "suspects" in a felony crime. Given those aspects...maybe you people would have done the same. As someone that doesn't care for mutts...I might have.

[Rumpeltiltspin]

You do make a valid point.

[Farmer]

I don't know what I would do in the exact same situation because that has never happened ot me - but - I did finally see the video and it did not look like it was charging anyone...

I also cannot imagine how heartbroken and how wronged they feel

I would be VERY upset if my dog were killed that way in front of me for no reason....

sheesh - how far off is the police state?

[barracuda]

Originally posted by builder
You know...think about it. You've got a pitbull with reputations that aren't "playful" coming at you while the people you've just pulled over are currently "suspects" in a felony crime. Given those aspects...maybe you people would have done the same. As someone that doesn't care for mutts...I might have.

BullSHIT, You're so full of it your eye are brown

[SandMan]

I've watched the video, does not look like a pit bull, maybe the office just figured that doggie knew a pit bull so he was trying to stop him from calling in some friends... :rolleyes:

[Piper]

That's why not everybody is cut out to be a police officer.

That's just a bit too damn jumpy for my tastes. Glad the kid didn't have a squirt gun.

[Fro]

Did it say it was a pitbull of the PO-Leases website? Of course they did, just to protect and cover up any wrong doing by the officer. Why? Because what you you rather believe...Cop shoots Pitbull after dog charges him or Cop shoots Labrador after dog charges him. Fucking pussy. If it was a pit, it's a fucking copout.

[builder]

Originally posted by Farmer
I did finally see the video and it did not look like it was charging anyone...

I haven't seen the video. I can't get that page to load.

I'm just saying that someone with a fear of dogs might not have reacted the way someone that cuddles on the sofa with their dobermans and rottweilers would have.

[Fro]

Originally posted by barracuda


BullSHIT, You're so full of it your eye are brown


You should know you browneye lickin mothafucka.

[vpkozel]

To whom it may concern,
I am sure this is not the first e-mail you have received on this subject, nor do I believe it will be the last. But I felt compelled to express my utter disgust at your organization. To be quite honest, I believe that both the officer who pulled the trigger on the dog and more imprtantly the senior officer on the scene should be dismissed from your force. There are many reasons for this. The officer in charge should have realized that the suspects were all cooperatiing and non-threatening. If he did not, he is incompetent and should be fired, if he did and ignored their questions and comments, then he is incompetent and should be fired. The Smoaks were clearly trying to be part of the solution for keeping their dogs in the car and were ignored. Once the dog was out of the car, the officer in charge should have realized that the animal was not a threat and was clearly wondering around happily. If he relized this and did nothing, then he is incompetent and should be fired. If he did not realize this, then he is incompetent and should be fired. At the point that the animal was shot, the Smoaks were all in handcuffs and Mr. Smoak makes an effort to communicate with the officers. He is pushed back down to the concrete. The officer in charge should have realized that Mr. Smoak was able to help diffuse the situation peacefully. If he did not realize this, then he is incompetent and should be fired. If he realized this and did nothing to stop the situation, then he is incompetent and should be fired. The officer who pulled the trigger was obviously not able to determine a non-threatening animal from a threatening one. That is a very big part of his job description and if he cannot do so properly, then he is incompetent and should be fired. Your officers said they were concerned that the animal was a pitbull. This dog looks nothing like a pitbull. In the end your officers had multiple opportunities to diffuse a situation before it got out of control. At EVERY step they made the incorrect decision. If they are not able to make these decisions correctly, then he is incompetent and should be fired. I do not make the statements lightly. Quite franckly I am outraged. This is exactly the type of behavior that gives police a bad name and that most police do not engage in. I believe that it is extremely important to deal with this type of behavoir when in occurs. The events have been capture on video tape and transcribed. You are now in the unenviable position of having to make a very hard decision. I do not doubt that these officers are good men, but if I made a similar series of bad decisions at my place of employment, I would be fired. I expect nothing less from you.

Regards,
Christian W.

[Fro]

Originally posted by builder
maybe you people would have done the same. As someone that doesn't care for mutts...I might have.

May you burn in hell for all eternity. :D

[Fro]

Originally posted by twin$
Funny thing is, this dog will get more support than an innocent person that is shot by the police.:mad:

But you don't see dogs robbing liquor stores or carjacking people.

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by Fro


But you don't see dogs robbing liquor stores or carjacking people.

I don't know, those chihuahuas can be some bad ass muthas

[gutter]

I just watched it. The dog was running around in the field wagging his tail. It came up behind the cop and he just shot it. That is bs. This is america. Think about the shit people have sued for. This is a definite win for the family. They don't deserve a million bucks or anything, but justice needs to be served.

[builder]

Originally posted by Fro
May you burn in hell for all eternity. :D

I don't believe in hell.

[Fro]

Originally posted by builder
I don't believe in hell.

Fine, may you be sent to a place where everyone is straight and your asshole and mouth are sewn up.

[Piper]

Originally posted by builder


I don't believe in hell.



Real place. Just head 20 miles South on I 85.

[gutter]

Originally posted by Fro


Fine, may you be sent to a place where everyone is straight and your asshole and mouth are sewn up.


He's already there. It's called the Bible Belt.

[builder]

Originally posted by not gutter
He's already there. It's called the Bible Belt.

:applause: Thank you not gutter. You Bang!

[Captain Morgan]

Originally posted by Fro
Fine, may you be sent to a place where everyone is straight and your asshole and mouth are sewn up.

Fro made me laugh.

[Rumpeltiltspin]

I say builder might have a point:

You never know what you might do in a circumstance such as this.
You don't know what the COP might have gone thru before.
People excuse criminal behavior because of past experiences by some.
Here's a true story:

One of my employees had to go appraise a house about 5 years ago. He had appraised many houses over the years, and as such he had run across many many dogs, not all of which were nice, but never had any problems with any of them- in fact this guy loved dogs and owned two himself. They were like kids to him, even slept in the bed with them on occasion.
Anyway, he goes up onto the front porch to knock on the door, to let the owner know he was there- and that he was gonna measure off the house, etc. When he got to the top step, he noticed a dalmation laying about 6 feet away, to the right of the door. It just laid there without growling, and kinda wagged it's tail. He proceeds to ring the doorbell, and whe he does, the dog jumps up and bites him in the back. He,s got a sweater on, and the first bite actually was just above his hips, and sinks into his spine. At the same time, the dogs teeth get caught in his sweater, the dog panics, continues to bite him in the back, and he falls to his knees while the dog continues. He is screaming, and the owner wasn't at home, knowing that he was comming.

In the meantime, the neigbor was doing some yardwork next door, and saw it happen. Having a shovel in his hand, and quick reactions , he ran across the yard and up onto the porch. The dog was still suck in the guy's sweater, angry because he was caught in it and just went nuts mangling the guy's back.
The neighbor hit him in the head with the shovel and killed the dog- one blow- BAM.

It took many many stitches to fix the guy's back, and took 6 months, surgery and treatement- plus for 3 months he had no feelings in his legs. He returned to work a year and a half later, fully healed, tho going thru alot to get there.
Today he and i=his wife own no dogs. He's so deathly scared of all dogs now, that I can't send him to a house that has one unfenced or unchained.

The owners of the dog tried to sue the county for the dog being killed, only it was unsuccessful because the neighbor done the killing.

If the guy carried a gun, every damn dog who got within 6 feet of him would be dead, and I can understand why.

Now I'm not saying the cop gets a pass, but if that's a problem with him, he shouldn't carry a gun.

[builder]

Thank you Rump. I don't care for most dogs. Especially if I don't know the owners.

[vpkozel]

The problem is that the Smoaks tried to prevent the situation by having the doors closed, then once the dog was out get him back in the car. In both cases they were ignored. This is why the officers should be fired.

[Piper]

Originally posted by Rumpeltiltspin

If the guy carried a gun, every damn dog who got within 6 feet of him would be dead, and I can understand why.

Now I'm not saying the cop gets a pass, but if that's a problem with him, he shouldn't carry a gun.

That's what I'm saying. If it's "fear of Scooby," then he needs to find a new line of work. Dogs in cars are common. That's a bit like being a lifeguard and being afraid of water.

[Rumpeltiltspin]

Originally posted by builder
Thank you Rump. I don't care for most dogs. Especially if I don't know the owners.

Damn, man, if you are gonna call me 'rump', I'm gonna have to change my name back to coach.:D

[builder]

Originally posted by Rumpeltiltspin
I'm gonna have to change my name back to coach.:D

Sorry Rump. But you know about Coach, right? One Store (http://www.coach.com/shop/thumbnail.asp?category_id=74&show_bc=1), two fantasies. :D

[Puttingood]

I seen a video of a dog wagging his tail playfully. The dog was in essence on a leash till the cops let him out. The cop might have thought the dog was gonna bite him but I ain't seen many that wag their tail and bite at the same time. I know cops that have been bit by dogs and they didn't shoot the dog. You can't go around shooting peoples dogs cause you think they might bite you. If the cops had their dog there and these innocent people thought they were gonna be bit then would it be okay to shoot the police dog? What about pepper spray ? Why kill a dog that if he was gonna bite would be because of his protecting his people that happen in this case to be innocent of anything.
The cop was wrong, dead wrong, and he will answer for this one.

[Rumpeltiltspin]

Originally posted by builder


Sorry Rump. But you know about Coach, right? One Store (http://www.coach.com/shop/thumbnail.asp?category_id=74&show_bc=1), two fantasies. :D

Yes Coach has the BEST leather products, very expensive too, but thier worth the money. Only pocketbook my wife will have.
More than two fantasies in my lifetime, not all have come true.
And you know I meant coach micool.;)

and Putt, you are probably right.

[Piper]

Originally posted by Puttingood
I seen a video of a dog wagging his tail playfully. The dog was in essence on a leash till the cops let him out. The cop might have thought the dog was gonna bite him but I ain't seen many that wag their tail and bite at the same time. I know cops that have been bit by dogs and they didn't shoot the dog. You can't go around shooting peoples dogs cause you think they might bite you. If the cops had their dog there and these innocent people thought they were gonna be bit then would it be okay to shoot the police dog? What about pepper spray ? Why kill a dog that if he was gonna bite would be because of his protecting his people that happen in this case to be innocent of anything.
The cop was wrong, dead wrong, and he will answer for this one.

:applause:

[gutter]

Originally posted by Puttingood
I seen a video of a dog wagging his tail playfully. The dog was in essence on a leash till the cops let him out. The cop might have thought the dog was gonna bite him but I ain't seen many that wag their tail and bite at the same time. I know cops that have been bit by dogs and they didn't shoot the dog. You can't go around shooting peoples dogs cause you think they might bite you. If the cops had their dog there and these innocent people thought they were gonna be bit then would it be okay to shoot the police dog? What about pepper spray ? Why kill a dog that if he was gonna bite would be because of his protecting his people that happen in this case to be innocent of anything.
The cop was wrong, dead wrong, and he will answer for this one.


I agree.

[SilverSurfer]

Any cop ever shoots my dog, I'll be in jail for cop killing.

[lj4three]

its funny that a lot of you are up in arms about this but dont give a shit if you bite into a burger or have some fried chicken. :roflmao:

[gutter]

Dogs are charming. Pigs and cows aren't. In order for me not to eat a piece of bacon it had better be one mutha fucking charming pig.

[SilverSurfer]

Originally posted by lj4three
its funny that a lot of you are up in arms about this but dont give a shit if you bite into a burger or have some fried chicken. :roflmao:

Any cop ever shoots my cow or my chicken I'll be in jail for cop killing.

[twin$]

Originally posted by Rumpeltiltspin


And them peoples running from, or shooting, at the po-leese
are all are innocent - right?




Notice the work INNOCENT in my statement?? Anyone shooting at cops is not INNOCENT...................

[kshead]

Originally posted by SilverSurfer


Any cop ever shoots my cow or my chicken I'll be in jail for cop killing.

You forgot cats too SS. I gotta cat I'm kinda fond of. I'd kill someone for shooing it I think. I know my grandpa REALLY DID kill another man's cow because that man killed grandpa's cat. Pawpaw never admitted to killing ol' man Vandal's cow back in '42 (I think it was '42) but my Dad thinks otherwise. Plus, that's a pretty long story.

Also, I know my fiance would kill someone over our cat. Even me.

[Rumpeltiltspin]

Because you eat dogs?

I raise cows and eat them. Doesn't bother me at all.

However:

I've been raising a calf for 6 months now, which was rejected by it's mother (she had twins, and only took care of 1).
I bottle fed it twice a day till last month, now feed it like my pets, not like the rest of the cows. My kids play with it, and it jogs with me around the pasture. It thinks I'm its' mother, and chases my truck down the road (inside the fence) as I pass the pasture when I leave the house.

I don't think I'd enjoy eating it.

[twin$]

Originally posted by Fro


But you don't see dogs robbing liquor stores or carjacking people.


Again, notice the work INNOCENT in my post? What the fuck does carjacking and robbing have to do w/ an INNOCENT person getting shot/assaulted by the police. If that's your logic, then yes, the police are justafied in shooting this dog, since other dogs have been known to attack people.........your logic, not mine.

[builder]

Originally posted by not gutter
Dogs are charming. Pigs and cows aren't. In order for me not to eat a piece of bacon it had better be one mutha fucking charming pig.

What movie was that?

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by builder


What movie was that?

Pulp Fiction

[builder]

Originally posted by vpkozel


Pulp Fiction

Not gutter is a HACK!

[Rumpeltiltspin]

Originally posted by twin$



Notice the work INNOCENT in my statement?? Anyone shooting at cops is not INNOCENT...................

Would you be alledging those peoples running from the police would be innocent too?

It was tougue-in-cheek there, Twin$.
Don't get bent outa shape.
I'd be much more concerned if some innocent person was shot in cold blood, standing there wagging his/her tail just mouthing off at a cop.

[Rumpeltiltspin]

Originally posted by not gutter
Dogs are charming. Pigs and cows aren't. In order for me not to eat a piece of bacon it had better be one mutha fucking charming pig.

Hey, my cows and pigs are charming, and they taste damn good.
In fact they are so charming, I'd be scared to death to let Shrap or Grid loose in my Pasture, there's no telling what they might do.:D

[gutter]

It's not like I claim to be original.

Shrap and Grid loose anywhere is dangerous. That's why they never come to our gatherings cause there locked up in a padded cell somewheres. But they do have internet access.:)

[Fro]

Originally posted by twin$
Again, notice the work INNOCENT in my post? What the fuck does carjacking and robbing have to do w/ an INNOCENT person getting shot/assaulted by the police. If that's your logic, then yes, the police are justafied in shooting this dog, since other dogs have been known to attack people.........your logic, not mine.

:rolleyes:

[WYDD]

you mean that shit happen to white folk too?

[kshead]

No. Just our pets.

[twin$]

Originally posted by Rumpeltiltspin


Would you be alledging those peoples running from the police would be innocent too?



Nope.

and Fro, stop :rolleyes: your eyes at me........

[kshead]

Finally saw the tape this morning. Fuck that cop.

[twin$]

As I stated earlier, more attention is being given to a cop that shoots a mut than cops who assault innocent people. Chicago Police Commander Jon Burge tortured suspects............4 to be pardoned (http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/01/10/illinois.death.row/index.html)

[Puttingood]

Start a thread about that subject Twin and then it won't get confused with the subject of this thread.;)

[kshead]

Originally posted by Puttingood
Start a thread about that subject Twin and then it won't get confused with the subject of this thread.;)

And maybe half the board won't give you shit for it either. Although I seriously doubt it. But I can always hold out hope.

[Boo]

Obviously, any car with money flying out of it just has to be fleeing a robbery. Why would they put that in the movies if it wasn't reality? Tennessee's finest are at our service!

And how sneaky of the "robbers" to disguise themselves as a family with kids and dog in tow! Hell, we all know that more and more robbers are ditching those worthless guns as means of self-defense and arming themselves with boxer dogs!

And they wonder why some people don't like cops. :rolleyes:

What pisses me off is the lady asked the cops to close the car door so the dog wouldn't get out...they didn't do it.

They didn't just shoot the dog, the blew its head off with a shotgun...you can tazer a dog, can't you?

[vpkozel]

Yep, that is what I wrote in my e-mail to the THP. The officers had like 6 opportunities to keep this from happening and made the wrong decision each time.

[Rumpeltiltspin]

I was just coming back from picking up my lunch.
I was on a two-way street going about fifty, in traffic.
A big, purty, white shaggy dog comes running out of a driveway to the left to chase a car coming the other way in front of me.
The car passes by him before he really gets out into the road.
He keeps running, almost running into the left side of my truck.
I look up into my rear-view mirror, only to see him plastered by the car behind me.:(

Anybody want my burger and fries?

[twin$]

hot dog!!!

[vpkozel]

Fuck off twins

[Stargazer]

Originally posted by twin$
hot dog!!!

That sucks.

[LLG]

Originally posted by Stargazer


That sucks.

I thought Builder was the one that sucked hot dogs :confused:

[Rumpeltiltspin]

You know twin$, I wonder how many cops you shed a tear over, who were shot, and killed by 'innocent' people, while trying to do their job, too.

I wonder what the ratio of cops killed while on duty, verses actual 'innocent' people whom any cops have killed.

The cops did a horrible thing here, and should be punished.

But I wonder how many cops have been injured/bitten by dogs while doing their jobs, as opposed to the 'innocent' dog that cops have shot.

Again: The cops did a horrible thing here, and should be punished.

[twin$]

chilli-dog?

[jbghostrat]

Ugggh! oh man, they are showing this on E right now, i had to turn the channel. I never checked out what you guys were talking about cause i knew it would make me sick, but they just came on with this little dog jumping around adn being all playful and i just had to turn the channel really really fast. :(


Someone tell me when they are finished!:(

[twin$]

Originally posted by Rumpeltiltspin
You know twin$, I wonder how many cops you shed a tear over, who were shot, and killed by 'innocent' people, while trying to do their job, too.

I wonder what the ratio of cops killed while on duty, verses actual 'innocent' people whom any cops have killed.

The cops did a horrible thing here, and should be punished.

But I wonder how many cops have been injured/bitten by dogs while doing their jobs, as opposed to the 'innocent' dog that cops have shot.

Again: The cops did a horrible thing here, and should be punished.


How many "innocent" people shoot cops? Do you know what "innocent" means? I can assure you that the # of "innocent" people that shoot cops is about as small as the # of cops that blow dog's heads off.

I feel bad when any "innocent" person is killed, including cops, but I can't bring myself to feel equally as bas when a dog gets his head blown off. Yes, the cop was wrong 4 killing the mutt, the family should sue, it was the cops fault for not closing the door when the family told him to.

In your words, I wonder how many innocent people that have been killed/assaulted by cops you have shed a tear for? It is kinda sad that you are so concerned about a dog gettin wacked as compared to innoncent people gettin killed. I guess a stupid dogs life is worth more than a human's life to some people.

[Puttingood]

Twin--I don't think it's a matter of who sheds tears for anyone. I am sure everyone does when an innocent person is killed or anyone is killed for that matter. I have met some sorry people in my life and I will be the first to say that "Yes" a stupid ass dogs life is worth more than some humans I have met or heard about.
Dogs don't molest children or kill people to support their drug habits. Dogs don't beat old people to death in order to steal money. Dogs have to be taught to kill or hate you. They don't do it because they are too lazy to work. Granted, some dogs become sick and may attack un-provoked but that don't happen near as much as humans do.
"Yes" I have seen many humans that I would pull the plug on and I have ran across very few dogs that I would feel that way about.

[jbghostrat]

What Putt said!!!! :cool:

[SilverSurfer]

Originally posted by twin$


I guess a stupid dogs life is worth more than a human's life to some people.

Yes.

MOST humans anyway.

[Fro]

Originally posted by Puttingood
Twin--I don't think it's a matter of who sheds tears for anyone. I am sure everyone does when an innocent person is killed or anyone is killed for that matter. I have met some sorry people in my life and I will be the first to say that "Yes" a stupid ass dogs life is worth more than some humans I have met or heard about.
Dogs don't molest children or kill people to support their drug habits. Dogs don't beat old people to death in order to steal money. Dogs have to be taught to kill or hate you. They don't do it because they are too lazy to work. Granted, some dogs become sick and may attack un-provoked but that don't happen near as much as humans do.
"Yes" I have seen many humans that I would pull the plug on and I have ran across very few dogs that I would feel that way about.

Exactly! :applause:

[voyergirl]

I have seen many humans that I would pull the plug on and I have ran across very few dogs that I would feel that way about

this statement also holds true for me:(

[HighPoint49er]

The messageboard of the Nashville Tennessean is almost entirely in support of the family and calls for the firing of this inept officer. I'm glad I don't have to travel in that area of the Volunteer State.

Message board (http://webx.tennessean.com/webx/cgi-bin/WebX?13@219.pKetaYjVlXG^24@.ee6dab8/0)

[Puttingood]

Some to seem to think that this guy was protecting himself and I understand that some people are deathly afraid of dogs but a man with a gun and that job has to make snap decisions and he proved he was not capable of handling the pressure. Like some one else mentioned, what if a kid had pointed a water gun at him.:(

[McFly41]

The thing that pisses me off is they made a felony stop when no felony was reported. Some dunce on a cell phone called in to report someone speeding, then said there was money "flying all over the road".
Mr. Smoak must have been loaded to have enough money in his wallet to have it flying all over the road.
From what I saw there was at least five cops with weapons drawn before they asked a single question. At worst, it was a speeding ticket and I have never been drawn on for speeding.
They pulled them all out of the car and had them in felony position based on an uninformed, over reacting citizen report?
This thing stank from the gitgo!
If your going to go about something the wrong way, might as well go all the way with it. IDIOTS!

[McFly41]

In addition, this family didn't fit any description of any suspects of any reported crime in the area...where is the justification for a felony stop in the first place?

[twin$]

Putt, everyone doesn't shed a tear when innocent people die. Some people try to link that innocent person w/ the guilty acts of others, and justify inappropriate police behavior. I agree that this is another topic, but so is somene shooting at cops, robbing liquor stores and other points that some members have tried to associate w/ my "innocent people" response. And I'm sure there are some pieces of shit out there, but noones life is worth less than a dog.

Mcfly41, anytime the police suspect that a serious crime has been commited, they usually always approach the car w/ guns drawn. U may have never been drawn on 4 a speeding ticket, but some people have not been so lucky. I've been drawn on by Gaston county's finest for nothing other than driving a Mercedes when I was 16 and having the same birthdate/address on my license as the passenger (my twin brother), so I'm sure these cops were justified in drawing on the people in this story.

The only inappropriate action I see here was shooting the dog, but that is nothing compared to what COULD have happened.

[Stargazer]

Originally posted by twin$
...but noones life is worth less than a dog.


It's unfortunate, but I have to disagree with you on this one.

[jbghostrat]

what stargazer said.

[Puttingood]

The only inappropriate action I see here was shooting the dog, but that is nothing compared to what COULD have happened.

Exactly ! Shooting the dog was a warning as to the mental stability of this cop. You can learn a lot about people by watching how they treat an animal.

I still disagree though and it's just the way I feel and I think some people do not deserve to live and if given the choice I would choose to send them straight to hell and never bat an eyelash. But I could never kill an animal unless I was forced to.

[McFly41]

Originally posted by twin$
Putt, everyone doesn't shed a tear when innocent people die. Some people try to link that innocent person w/ the guilty acts of others, and justify inappropriate police behavior. I agree that this is another topic, but so is somene shooting at cops, robbing liquor stores and other points that some members have tried to associate w/ my "innocent people" response. And I'm sure there are some pieces of shit out there, but noones life is worth less than a dog.

Mcfly41, anytime the police suspect that a serious crime has been commited, they usually always approach the car w/ guns drawn. U may have never been drawn on 4 a speeding ticket, but some people have not been so lucky. I've been drawn on by Gaston county's finest for nothing other than driving a Mercedes when I was 16 and having the same birthdate/address on my license as the passenger (my twin brother), so I'm sure these cops were justified in drawing on the people in this story.

The only inappropriate action I see here was shooting the dog, but that is nothing compared to what COULD have happened.

I'll disagree on the comment that no one's life is worth less than a dog. I can think of a number of people whose lifes are worth FAR less than many, many dogs I know. That is a statement that is subject to relativity.
I do agree that those who are suspected of a serious crime should be drawn on, including Enron executives. However, speeding alone is not justification for displaying your weapon (at least in Iowa it isn't). I've taken the test and am somewhat familiar with the protocol. A buddy of mine had his gun taken away for a month for that same reason when he was a Proby, lucjy they didn't can him.
The Smoak's were guilty of nothing more than speeding and with only a phone call from a "concerned" citizen who may or may not have over exaggerated the situation had NO reason to conduct a felony stop. There wasn't enough information to support it.
Now, had there been a robbery or something reported in the area or a car matching such a description reported in another matter, THEN and ONLY THEN would a felony stop be justified.
When you were pulled over for speeding at 16, did you try to elude or did the officers inform you of a matching description to justify their display of force? If not, they were NOT justified in doing so.

[SilverSurfer]

Originally posted by twin$
And I'm sure there are some pieces of shit out there, but noones life is worth less than a dog.



Shit. I can hardly think of anyone's life that is worth more than almost any dog's to ME, other than family and friends.

It reminds me of that question that Inamorata asked about would you kill your own child to save 6 million people. If I didn't know the people, I wouldn't even kill my dog to save them, much less my kid. Fuck em.

[McFly41]

Originally posted by SilverSurfer


Shit. I can hardly think of anyone's life that is worth more than almost any dog's to ME, other than family and friends.

It reminds me of that question that Inamorata asked about would you kill your own child to save 6 million people. If I didn't know the people, I wouldn't even kill my dog to save them, much less my kid. Fuck em.

Amen, Silver!
I believe in natural selection and when it comes to the drones of jerk offs that deserve to die, yet live on our dollar (murderers, pedophiles, ANY 3 strike criminal) I believe in cleansing the gene pool.

[twin$]

Just saw the tape. It did appear that the dog may have been about to attack the officer, but it was the fault of the officer(s). They should have closed the door like the people said. While I can understand someone being scared and shooting a dog that they feel is about to attack, this is really not the case here. Had the officers listened, this would've been avoided. It's kinda like jumping over in your neighbors fenced in dog lot and shooting his dog b/c it is about 2 attack you. I think the officers should pay the family, but at the sametime, like I said, it could've been worse, it could have been a person biting the bullet.

[Rumpeltiltspin]

Originally posted by twin$
...... it could've been worse, it could have been a person biting the bullet.

Yes. And had the cop executed an innocent person, and was caught on tape as this was, and this thread was about that current event, most of us would've jumped on the cop also, most perhaps harder than we did about that poor dog.