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The Brain
01-09-03, 01:01 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20030109/ap_on_re_mi_ea/un_iraq_16

By EDITH M. LEDERER, Associated Press Writer

UNITED NATIONS - U.N. weapons inspectors have not found any "smoking guns" in Iraq but are receiving intelligence from several nations that could help point the way to new sites to search for weapons of mass destruction, the chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix said Thursday.


A White House official said Blix's comments did not contradict the U.S. position that Baghdad is still working to hide its weapons programs. Inspectors' reports have also stated that Iraq still must present evidence it does not possess such weapons, the official said on condition of anonymity.


In Baghdad, an adviser to Saddam Hussein addressed another concern — taking Iraqi scientists to neutral ground abroad for questioning.


Gen. Hossam Mohammed Amin, the chief Iraqi liaison officer to the inspection teams, said Thursday that a U.N. inspector had raised the possibility — without making a formal request — of taking Iraqi scientists to Cyprus for questioning. Asked how Iraq responded, he repeated the Iraqi position that scientists could decide for themselves but that they were expected to refuse.


Blix said he hadn't heard of such a request. He said "the question of interviews remains" and that the U.N. Security Council had provided several options with how to conduct the questioning.


Blix spoke to reporters before briefing the Security Council on the progress of inspections and assessments of Iraq's 12,000-page weapons declaration, which he and other inspectors have said leaves many questions unanswered.


The inspectors are to give a formal report on Iraq's compliance on Jan. 27. British Prime Minister Tony Blair on Thursday said that date should not be seen as a deadline for conflict.


"We are in the middle of a process. The U.N. inspectors have just, at the beginning of the year, got their full complement of inspectors there," Blair told government ministers in London, according to his spokesman.


The United States, backed by Britain, has threatened military action against Iraq if it does not comply with U.N. demands and rid itself of programs for chemical, biological and nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles. But Blix stressed that U.N. resolution do not put a time limit on inspections.


Blix briefed the council along with Mohamed ElBaradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, which leads nuclear inspections in Iraq.


Ahead of the briefing, Blix said "a more profound reading" of Iraq's weapons declaration confirmed inspectors' initial impression a month ago that it was incomplete.


"We think that the declaration failed to answer a great many questions," he told reporters.


He said Iraq had not replied to his requests for the answers made since the declaration. "Iraq may have more to say. I hope so," he said.


Amin denied inspectors had submitted any questions and said Iraq had shown that it no longer has any weapons of mass destruction.


For much of the Security Council, the issues of Iraqi cooperation with inspectors and evidence of clandestine Iraqi weapons programs are considered crucial to support for any military action.


"We have now been there for some two months and been covering the country in ever wider sweeps and we haven't found any smoking guns," Blix said.


Asked whether inspectors were getting significant intelligence from the United States, Blix said: "Well, we are getting intelligence from several sources and I will not go into the operative part of that, but it's clear that this will be helpful in the future to us."


"We have gone to, I think, about 125 sites already, and some of them were not visited before, and there will be more. And as more intelligence comes in, there will be more sites visited. I'm confident that we will get more intelligence."

Blix has said previously that his inspectors need intelligence from other nations because Iraq's weapons declaration leaves so many unanswered questions that it's impossible to verify its claim of having no weapons of mass destruction.

Secretary of State Colin Powell told The Washington Post for Thursday's editions that in the past few days, the United States has begun giving inspectors "significant intelligence" that has enabled them to become "more aggressive and to be more comprehensive in the work they're doing."

But Washington is holding back some information to see if inspectors "are able to handle it and exploit it. ... It is not a matter of opening up every door we have," Powell said.

French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin said his government wants the council to comply with Resolution 1441, adopted Nov. 8, which asks all countries to provide information on Iraq's "prohibited programs" and recommend sites to be visited and Iraqis to be interviewed.

The United States has promised to share information with inspectors, as long as U.S. intelligence sources aren't compromised. "We have and will continue to provide information to the inspectors," a U.S. official said Wednesday, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Britain opened a channel weeks ago to provide the inspectors with information and "they are getting all that we can usefully give," a British official said Wednesday, speaking on condition of anonymity.

French President Jacques Chirac, two days after telling his armed forces to be ready "for all eventualities," said Thursday he hoped the Iraq crisis would be resolved peacefully and reiterated that military action must be a last resort.

Chirac said the government will work alongside the United Nations to make Saddam comply with his U.N. disarmament obligations and that France would continue to push for a diplomatic solution.

gridfaniker
01-09-03, 01:15 PM
I like this:

Mohamed ElBaradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency

Now there's an impartial observer. This is all a fucking sham.

needawindow
01-09-03, 01:47 PM
I really don't think it matters what they find (or don't find). Bush has a hard on for starting something over there. He will find a way to start war with Iraq.

SandMan
01-09-03, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by needawindow
I really don't think it matters what they find (or don't find). Bush has a hard on for starting something over there. He will find a way to start war with Iraq.

As would any president in office now. Its not about Bush. I never understood why they even did this.

I have an average size house. Tell me you are coming to look for something. Give me a few weeks notice. I promise you that you will not find what you are looking for. Unless the UN checked every single fucking plant, building, house, whatever... there is no reason to conclude Irag does not have weapons of mass destruction.

Superfluous_Nut
01-09-03, 10:50 PM
I like the part about proving they don't have something... How the hell do you prove you don't have an item?

Sandman, you're assuming that they're looking for physical items like bombs and things. They are, but they're also looking for things on the microscopic level. Stuff you just can't scrub away. Radioactive residue. Chemical residue.

I think a better analogy would be you trying to hide the fact that somebody once lived in your house. You could go around and clean up for a year and it wouldn't take long to find evidence that somebody had been there.

SandMan
01-09-03, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Superfluous_Nut

I think a better analogy would be you trying to hide the fact that somebody once lived in your house. You could go around and clean up for a year and it wouldn't take long to find evidence that somebody had been there.

Ahhh... but lets assume I owned more than one house.... you get the point...

back to the original statement... do they check every building, every facility??? If not, then they have no conclusive evidence.

Boo
01-10-03, 08:52 AM
they haven't been allowed to talk to scientists either. It's not as simple as just having an interview with them. In the past, Sadam has killed the scientiest and/or family members for speaking. The agreed upon way to interview them is to get them and their families out of the country....forever and with pay.

T_Schroll
01-10-03, 10:10 PM
I want Blix to explain to me how he and his boys can throughly inspect anything in less than an hour and declare it clean. They have as yet to inspect any Military sites either. Nut you have to remember we have a list of his known weapons from the last inspections, Blix can't find them either.

WilliamJ
01-10-03, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by needawindow
I really don't think it matters what they find (or don't find). Bush has a hard on for starting something over there. He will find a way to start war with Iraq. Are you really this nieve?

Turbo
01-11-03, 02:52 AM
The idea that the world can trust Hans Blix to lead the UN Inspections team would be laughable if it weren't such a serious matter.

Here is a quote from the BBC webpage on Hans Blix:

Hans Blix

In 1981, Dr Blix became director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency - a post he retained until 1997.

The job called for him to oversee, among other things, inspections of Iraq's nuclear programme.

During that time, Saddam Hussein's regime managed to hide an advanced nuclear weapons development programme from the IAEA. But Mr Blix said the experience taught him something.

"It's correct to say that the IAEA was fooled by the Iraqis," he told the Guardian newspaper.

"But the lesson was learned. Because not seeing something, not seeing an indication of something, does not lead automatically to the conclusion that there is nothing."

Hans Blix (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/europe/2268819.stm)

He failed before - and he will fail now. Should the US base its decision on stopping Saddam on the findings of Hans Blix? Absolutely NOT!

reb
01-11-03, 09:06 AM
It makes no difference if they don't find anything. We is goin' fo dat oril boyz. :D
I guess we have O J looking for Osama now. :rolleyes:

Superfluous_Nut
01-15-03, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by T_Schroll
Nut you have to remember we have a list of his known weapons from the last inspections, Blix can't find them either.

I'd be interested to read something about that. Do you have a link?

Rumpeltiltspin
01-15-03, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by reb
It makes no difference if they don't find anything. We is goin' fo dat oril boyz. :D
I guess we have O J looking for Osama now. :rolleyes:

I don't really WANT to go to war with anybody, but:

Since all ya'll dead set against going to war, I'd really like to know what evidence is there (since ya'll are the one's demanding evidenceof WMA - I'd like to see some too) That it's all about OIL?
I mean real evidence, like you're crying for with WMD.
No rehashing Dem propaganda, or quotes from that old lady leading that nekkid lady anti-war protest.
Show me some actual evidence to this opinion, and I'll be even MORE against going to war.

Rumpeltiltspin
01-15-03, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by Superfluous_Nut


I'd be interested to read something about that. Do you have a link?

I don't have a link for you, EJ, but I heard Blix, himself, say this yeasterday.
When everybody was talking about the liberal mainstream media- well here's a current example. I saw one station: tha Fox News Channel show this yesterday, but couldn't find it anywhere else.

Agent Smith
01-15-03, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Superfluous_Nut


I'd be interested to read something about that. Do you have a link?


Here is a link from CNN.com

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/01/14/sproject.irq.blix.ap/index.html


Blix said the key message that he and Mohamed ElBaradei, chief of the International Atomic Energy Agency, will deliver to Iraqi officials when they visit Baghdad on Sunday and Monday is that Iraq's 12,000-page weapons declaration submitted to inspectors last month did not contain any new evidence to verify its claim that its weapons of mass destruction have been destroyed.

Puttingood
01-15-03, 05:36 PM
If they want to find those things then drop a bomb and watch which direction they run in.

Rumpeltiltspin
01-15-03, 05:57 PM
I vote Mr.Putt for D. Rumsfeld's job.:D