Guinness Draught

[SandMan]

If you've ever had it on draft in a bar, you know they have to pour it in 2 stages.

This bottle I'm drinking says drink straight from the bottle. As I finish, I realize they have this little thing inside the bottle, looks like an ice cube or glass thing of some sort. Does this help give the same effect as real draft? I guess it explains why it is an 11.2oz bottle.

Good stuff

[sadic1]

I didn't know they made Guiness Draft in bottles, but I've been drinking the tall cans of it for a long time, and that shit is great (10 times better than regular Guiness out of the bottle). There's a plastic thing inside it - it used to be like a little disk, but they changed it to a ball - it's got CO2 in it that releases (you can hear it) when you open the bottle. It gives the beer the sort of "airy" draft taste. Makes a nice black and tan, if you leave a nice head on the lager (and are super patient drizzling the Guiness over the spoon).

[SandMan]

This is called "Guiness Draught" and the thing inside appears to be kina elongated plastic or something... not really a ball now that I look at it... but it taste pretty close to original...

[imking4aday]

They invented that plastic thing in the bottles about a year ago I guess, it was all over the Guiness website when they released it...they called it "the rocket" or something like that. Works about the same way as the tall cans...I guess people were bitching (like myself) about the old bottles cause the Guiness tasted pretty raunch in those

[gridfaniker]

Originally posted by imking4aday
I guess people were bitching (like myself) about the old bottles cause the Guiness tasted pretty raunch in those

I don't know why. They're two different things. The tall cans and new bottles have the draught Guinness, like you'd get on tap at a bar. The other stuff is the stout. If you don't care for stout beers, I guess you could call it raunch. But as far as stouts go, it doesn't get much better than Guinness.

[sadic1]

I think they're all stoudt, Grid. One just tastes more like you're getting it at the pub.

[VOR]

Originally posted by gridfaniker


I don't know why. They're two different things. The tall cans and new bottles have the draught Guinness, like you'd get on tap at a bar. The other stuff is the stout. If you don't care for stout beers, I guess you could call it raunch. But as far as stouts go, it doesn't get much better than Guinness.

You've never had that guiness bottled in costa rica that we used to get in miami. That shit almost made me quit drinking beer.

[Farmer]

Guiness is about one of the only beers you can get around here Import or Domestic that does NOT taste like piss or water.

I recently found a German beer available here called Francis Kaner and it's a decent Weiss beer

can't hold a candle to some of the great beers I'm gonna be having soon though!

[BearBryant]

Process:
The gas pod in the can is blow molded with nitrogen (N).
A laser zaps a hole in the pod. (they experimented with holes between 0.2mm and 2.5mm finding that 0.61 mm as ideal)
Pod is inserted in the bottom of can.
Can is filled with CO2/N supersaturated stout. N is present at 1.5% v/v min up to 3.5% v/v. (FYI, vol/vol is the number of volumes of gas which are dissolved in a unit volume of beverage at 760mm of Hg & 15.6 oC) CO2 is present at between 0.8 and 1.5% v/v.
During filling, foam rises to top of can. This clears the air.
A charge of liquid N is added to the stout.
Can is sealed.
As liquid N boils off in can during pasteurisation (60 oC for 15-20 min), top of can pressurizes and forces the stout into the pod, thus compressing the ambient pressure N in the pod.
Equilibrium is reached at about 25 psi.



The can quickly depressurizes to ambient pressure. The pod thus expels the stout contained in it (about 10-15 ml) at high velocity through the orifice. This causes high local strain of the stout at the plane of the orifice. This strain exceeds the cohesive forces holding the gases in solution. As a result, the N/CO2 is liberated from the stout at the plane of the orifice. The millions of tiny N/CO2 bubbles then become the foam head. So contrary to my initial belief, while some of the N gas in the pod escapes directly into the stout, it is actually the "ripping apart" of the stout as it exits the pod which produces the bubbles, hence the creamy head.

[imking4aday]

Originally posted by sadic1
I think they're all stoudt, Grid. One just tastes more like you're getting it at the pub.

exactly...guiness is a stout...the old bottles didn't have the draft (draught) flavor, so it tasted like guiness does at a bar if you forgot you had ordered one and drank it 5 hours later

[imking4aday]

Originally posted by Farmer
Guiness is about one of the only beers you can get around here Import or Domestic that does NOT taste like piss or water.



quite consistent i must say

[gridfaniker]

Originally posted by sadic1
I think they're all stoudt, Grid. One just tastes more like you're getting it at the pub.

Well, yeah, they are. The non-draught version is more of a straight stout beer. You pour it and get little if any head. What I'm saying is that if you don't like the regular stout version (non-draught), you're probably not going to be too fond of most stouts. They're much more bitter than the Guinness draught. I guess it's a matter of taste, but I like the regular stuff better. I think you get a better buzz from it.

[HPCatFan]

Thats a good beer. I went to an Irish wedding last summer, drank Guiness for two straight days. The worst-smelling gas I've ever had was the result, along with possibly the worst hangover. Took me about 3 mos before I could drink it again.