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LarryD
03-22-02, 06:29 AM
got this in an email...


i dont' know if you do guest articles, but i wrote this up and was trying to shop it around. The dates, places and stats would need to be double-checked because I did it straight from memory. I'm a junior in college and free-lance writer, although i've never had anything used.

"this one hurt"

This one hurt. It still stings. I've been bleeding Duke blue ever since I first saw them. That was only a mere 12 years ago. I was 10 at the time, and they were playing against UNLV for the title. My dad told me that UNLV were cheaters, and when you are 10, everything your Dad says, espically what my Dad said regarding basketball, was true. So, when seeing Larry Johnson and Jerry Tarkenian match up against college basketball icon and posterboy Christian Laettner and his leader, Coach K, I wanted Duke, even though I couldn't even tell you there was a city named Durham.

That was 12 years ago. That UNLV pounding didn't hurt that much at the time. I've been through many worse losses since then, and this one hurt alot. Of course, the Jason Williams missed free-throw is still fresh in my mind, and I hope in time it goes away, but for some reason that shot and Boozer's follow up miss will probably be etched in my memory forever. It is filed on the other half of my brain, far away in the cold nether region of hurt that takes months, sometimes years and titles, to get over. It is stored miles apart from the Blue Devil's revenge against UNLV, Laettner's miracle and Shane Battier's picture perfect senior year.

This one hurt. I even avoided television after the game. It was silent in my house, like a member of the family just died. Everyone knew to only speak if spoken too. They knew too, that this one hurt. I had to find a hobby to do, just to avoid Sportscenter. I shredded my brackets faster than you can say Enron. I had to try to not think of this game. I had to try not to keep replaying the elation I felt seeing the makings of a 4 point play crumble before my Blue Devil eyes.

This one hurt, and though it is still fresh in my mind, I know this will not go away anytime soon, possibly ever. This loss made me think back to the 5 worst losses I've had to experience in my 13 years as an adopted Dukie born and raised in Tennessee. Here they are:

5) 1997. St. Petersburg, Florida. Duke vs. Kentucky. Kentucky fans wanted blood in this one, still very bitter from the shot heard round the world in '92. Duke had some serious talent, although they were still a year away from realizing it. Shane Battier before he became all everything. Elton Brand, one season shy of his player of the year campagin. Trajan Langdon. William Avery.Wojo. Wojo, the epitome of Duke. The too slow, too short , gritty point guard who could marry my daughter, if I had one. Wojo, who beat the floor to inspire defense. Wojo! Duke was a number one seed and the winner headed to the Final Four. Duke took a commanding lead and the Final Four no longer seemed hopeful, but almost written in stone. Then, as a Duke fan I hate to say it, I watched one of the greater chokes in recent sports history. I watch a double digit lead crumble in the last ten minutes. Coach K turned into Greg Norman and the NCAA tournament was renamed the Masters. UK won, and their fans finally exercised their basketball demons from 1992. Their pleasure was my pain.

4) 1994. Duke vs. Arkansas. The Blue Devil dynasty was about to pick up another trophy. It would be the third title in four years. We'll get to what kept it from being four straight titles in a minute. Duke had All-American and already two time NCAA champ Grant Hill. Great game, except for the outcome. Arkansas won, of course, but the thing that stung the most was the fact that Duke was about a 1/2 inch away from the title. I still have wonder to this day how Scotty "Why did I ever enter the NBA Draft Early" Thurman made that 3-pointer over Antonio "I was this close to a block" Lang.

3)2002. Lexington, Kentucky. Duke vs. Indiana. Duke was looking to be the first repeat champ since, well, Duke back in '91 and' 92. Duke pulled another great choke. Instead of doing it against Kentucky, they did it right in the Wildcats back yard, so all those UK fans could watch Jason "I can make any shot on the court except a free throw" miss a chance at what would have been a Laettner-esque four point play to send the game into overtime. As if that was not enough, I had to watch Carlos Boozer miss the rebound follow that would have won it. This one is still very fresh in my mind, but I think in ten years it will still be a top, or bottom, five loss.

2) 1993. Duke vs. California. This was when I became a man. I almost came to tears over a sports game, and I knew that was some sort of rite of passage into manhood, ranking right up there with losing your virginity and drinking your first beer. Since my entry into the realm of the Duke Blue Devil world, I had seen the thrashing by UNLV as the only signifigant loss, and I had revenge plus back to back titles to put that loss to death. However, Laettner was gone. I had yet to learn that Duke would not win the title every year, and even though Duke was not a top five team that year, my thirteen year old brain did not comprehend anything other than Duke and NCAA champion. It was even harder to grasp the Dukies not at least, AT LEAST, in the Final Four. Jason Kidd and Lamond Murray, how you mocked me. You gave me bad Blue Devil luck until last year's title. I blame this loss for lots of things. I blame this loss for jinxing Bobby Hurley into a car wreck and a horrid pro career. I blame this loss on next season's oh so close title miss against Arkansas. I blame this loss for Coach K missing half of the 1994 season. I blame this loss for everything up until Shane Battier redeemed me. I feel that just as Boston has the curse of the Bambino which some think extends all the way up to Bill Buckner, that Kidd and company jinxed the Blue Devils up until last year. I think it fully hit home how bad this loss was when I saw Coach K cry at the press-conference, saying that he'd never coach Hurley and Thomas Hill again. I was right there with you Coach. This was so close to being the worst Duke memory of my life. Until....

1) 1999. Minniapolis, Minnesota. Duke vs. UConn. Duke was 38-1. 38-1! A win would set the all-time NCAA record for most wins in a season. This title would be historic. They would go down as one of the best EVER. By this time I knew how special that was. The starting five was Brand, Battier, Langdon, Avery and Carrowell. All 1st round NBA selections. The first man off the bench was a 1st rounder too, named Corey Maggette. They were going up against Rip Hamilton, Jake "Boy my hair sure is pretty" Voskul and UConn. I can't say much else, other than this will still be the most talented Blue Devil team to ever suit up. If only they had the killer instinct and ability to dispose of pressure like the early 90's teams.

So, like I said, this one hurt. But by now, I know how to deal with these things. No more NCAA basketball game watching until next season. No real sports news for a week or two. Try not to think about all those "What If?" statements. The one thing that comes from this loss is, I appreciate last season's championship that much more. I appreciate the back to back titles that much more. I also hate Indiana and Lexington, that much more.

BearBryant
03-22-02, 07:45 AM
:nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity:

SandMan
03-22-02, 07:54 AM
:roflmao:

PanthersReturn
03-22-02, 08:37 AM
My "order" would be the Duke swoon vs. Kentucky first, and Thurman's shot over Lang second. The Cal game ripped by heart out, and was 3rd. Last night, 4th, and UConn 5th.

Too many good memories to ease the pain.
:D

slydevl
03-22-02, 09:05 AM
1999 Duke vs. Uconn was in Tampa/St. Pete. I was there.

Savio
03-22-02, 10:21 AM
Actually Carawell was a 2nd round selection by the San Antonio Spurs....

:rolleyes:

meatpile
03-22-02, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by slydevl
1999 Duke vs. Uconn was in Tampa/St. Pete. I was there.

Did it hurt?

:rofl:

TommyBoy
03-22-02, 10:44 AM
Fear the Turtle. Go Terps!!!!!

03-22-02, 11:04 AM
My worst would be in this order:

5. Sweet 16 loss to UF in 2001.
4. Second-round loss to Cal in '93.
3. Second-round loss to Providence in '97.
2. Final loss to UConn in '99.
1. Elite 8 loss to UK in '98.

WYDD
03-22-02, 11:06 AM
how the hell did the providence game bug you, they were 8-8 in conference that year. They didn't have a chance.

wossa
03-22-02, 12:36 PM
wydd - I'm sure jcb was a state fan before 1997 so he has a short perspective ( among other things)

SandMan
03-22-02, 01:06 PM
Probably Duke's funniest or most embarrassing loss was at home against the Tar Heels last year against first year soon to suck coach Matt D. (I'm a heel fan, so I hope he works out, but...)

:lol2:

03-22-02, 02:03 PM
WYDD you are thinking of 1996. Knowledgeable Duke fans (that's directed at Wossa, not you) such as myself will know that '97 was the first of Duke's 5 straight ACC regular-season titles. They were the #1 seed in the ACC Tourney before losing to State in the first round, so the early exit wasn't a big surprise, but it stung nonetheless b/c it was such a huge upset and I was disappointed in the way Coach k handled the lineup patterns in that game, letting 6'6" Jamel Thomas dominate under the basket.

The UF loss was a stinger b/c '00 was one of my favorite Duke teams of all time and it hurt to see them go down early after exceeding everyone's expectations throughout the year. They were very young, however.

wossa
03-22-02, 02:14 PM
UNC - so many great teams so few titles.

oops

I meant dook- so many great teams so few titles.

easy to confuse the two.

and jcb you are correct again - I am not a knowledgeable dook fan

WYDD
03-22-02, 02:17 PM
eh wossa, i'd argue with you, but you seem not to give a shit about b-ball anymore. I'll wait on blueblood's dumbass to come around. But if i were to argue i'd say "hey, all we here about is unc's GREAT nba players compared to duke's. Now duke chokes like unc, but they still don't have the nba players." Now, i'm confused.

wossa
03-22-02, 02:53 PM
wydd - just giving arrogant dukies a taste of their own medicine.

the crap poured down UNC throats for years and years about UNC/Dean and his stocked teams that underacheived/choked has turned me bitter I guess.

its the whole goood for the goose thang - ya know?

for example - over the last five years dook has a record of 164-19.

that is outta this world impressive - ( UNC lost more games THIS season than dook lost over the LAST FIVE - :o ) and without a doubt in every one of those five years dook was THE team to beat. Ranked #1, trouncing opponents, running the table in the regular season and ACC tourney. stocked full of NBA ( yes I said NBA) talent POY studs Williams, Brand, Battier, etc.

yet for all that awesome talent and record - only one measly NCAA title - hell ONLY two final fours - getting the boot way too early 3 of those years.

So does all this mean that Kiuadiuasdihgi is a crappy coach when the chips are down? it must since that is the stick they like to hit Dean with. Did dook choke with rosters stocked with McD AA's ?

I guess so since that was the rap against UNC for having the same results.

Oh well - I guess I'll let it die. Most of you can't see shit through those dark blue shades anyway so why bother.

another great season for another great dook team that ended too early.

something I am well familiar with as a long time UNC fan

PanthersReturn
03-22-02, 03:17 PM
Wossa, does that mean you've seen the light and are joining the Duke bandwagon?

Jump on now - after last night, there's probably puh-lenty of room...:rolleyes:

wossa
03-22-02, 03:42 PM
PR2 Puhleaze!

Don't make me :barf: :barf2: :suicide:

Y2Buddy
03-23-02, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by slydevl
1999 Duke vs. Uconn was in Tampa/St. Pete. I was there.

Hey me too. Kentucky fans are real assholes. We were thrown out of the lower deck after they found out we had upper level seats.

03-23-02, 08:27 PM
What do Kentucky fans have to do with a game in St. Pete between Duke and UConn?

BearBryant
03-24-02, 10:56 AM
"Knowledgeable Dukes fans will remeber 97' was the first 5 ACC titles"---

Yeps, thats a total giveaway of a longtime Duke fan. Not many peolple can remember way back to 1997.

Piper
03-24-02, 10:59 AM
Are yall still talking about this shit?

03-24-02, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by BearBryant
"Knowledgeable Dukes fans will remeber 97' was the first 5 ACC titles"---

Yeps, thats a total giveaway of a longtime Duke fan. Not many peolple can remember way back to 1997.

Hey dumbass, he said Duke was 8-8 in the league that year.

LarryD
04-23-08, 11:11 PM
bump. any more to add?

wossa
04-24-08, 01:50 PM
yes

why is this in the football forum?

and what ever happened to this guy? He was aight for a dook fan and I remember him and VOR really going after each other over politics.


Wossa, does that mean you've seen the light and are joining the Duke bandwagon?

Jump on now - after last night, there's probably puh-lenty of room...:rolleyes:

DJ_Tet
04-24-08, 03:20 PM
I too had forgotten about PanthersReturn, a missed poster.

Good summary, I imagine my worst 5 losses were along the same lines as the ones in the OP.

That Kentucky loss in 98 was particularly painful because that was our first year 'back' and we blew a 17 point lead not once, but twice. We had a huge lead in the first half and blew it, only to get the lead again and blow it.

magnus
04-24-08, 03:26 PM
yes

why is this in the football forum?

back then there weren't any other sports forums

slydevl
04-24-08, 03:39 PM
Did Colin write the original post?