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is screwed. I'm thinking about getting an MRI. Last year I fucked up my knee so bad I couldn't walk straight for 2 weeks...meaning no pressure on it, if I did it hurt like hell. Now it just pops every now and then when I move it laterally. I can't even run more than two miles without some kind of pain. I hope it's nothing too serious. I was at the Y today and trying to do leg extentions and couldn't apply 30 pounds of pressure. :( Maybe it's just a sprain or maybe chondromalacia but I highly doubt that. The worse thing I could do is tore some cartiledge but hopefully not any ligaments.
Village Idiot
04-05-03, 10:42 AM
Man, you need stop running until you see a doctor. I ran for over 20 years and had to give it up. Nothing replaces that feeling, except maybe long distance swimming, but that pounding will destroy knee joints. That knee joint has to last you the rest of your life.
pantherking
04-05-03, 01:27 PM
sounds like same thing i got
it sucks so bad when your trying to do something and bam ur face is in the floor
im pretty sure its ligament damage in mine , dont know about yours
but i dont have any insurance or any dang money to get mine fixed
its real ya pain to deal with
probably tore your meniscus
depending how young you are might want to check it out , because it can cause long term knee deteriation
im just screwed and probably wont be able to walk by the time im 30
disability here i come
Honeygirl
04-05-03, 01:34 PM
Sounds like you need to give it full rest - not just for a few days - but weeks. Strap it up - and keep it rested. My family were all at one time long distance runners (genetically, I think I missed the boat on that one - but what can you do?), anyway - they've all got stuffed knees one way or another. Savio, I know you love it - but stop while you can still walk without constant agony. :(
mailman
04-05-03, 03:24 PM
Hoo-rah! boys, I did the same about 6yrs ago and the family Dr. said it was a sprain. It "popped" out a few weeks later and the ER Dr. said it was a sprain. Last year I decide to go see an Othorpaedic Dr after my knee had gotten to the point where almost any normal activity could make it "pop" out of joint. Lo and behold I had a torn ACL.
Savio, the leg extensions tells me that you most likely have a torn ACL also. There a number of tests you can do with the help of someone but I wouldn't attempt them. If not done correctly you could be in some serious pain. Go see a Orthopaedic Dr and he'll be able to tell you with about 1-2 different excersizes.
pantherking I know how you feel about no insurance, that's why I never went to have mine checked. If it were to pop out again and you go to the ER they are going to X-ray it and say it's a sprain..... trust me on that. No ER Dr. is going to run an MRI on you, at least they never did mine and that's to different visits. An MRI runs anywhere from 1,000 to 1500 dollars. If insurance is in your future I'd wait until I got some, if not then bite the bullet and make a visit to an Ortho Dr and be ready to make a shitload of payments.
ACL surgery 3500-4k
Use of the hospital 2500
anesthesiologist 1500
And there alot of "other" costs that go into it... all in I think it was about 10k maybe a little more.
Best part is every penny you pay out is tax deductible, bad thing is having to pay that money out.
I went to Orthopaedics East in Greenville,NC (http://www.ortho1.com/pages/about.html) and them people know their shit. Just a recommendation.....:)
Edit - Click here (http://www.thisboardrocks.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2233)
I hope it's not serious. I'm going to rest it for a while then re-evaluate.
Mail - It cost you that much with Insurance? I'm with Aetna and they're pretty good.
plutosgirl
04-06-03, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by Savio
I hope it's not serious. I'm going to rest it for a while then re-evaluate.
Mail - It cost you that much with Insurance? I'm with Aetna and they're pretty good.
Savio- sounds like a lateral mensicus tear to me, but the fact that you can still lift up to 30 lbs and run some tells me it can't be too bad. I will do your MRI, but I swear, if you ask me if you can breath I will smother you with a pillow.;)
mailman
04-06-03, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Savio
Mail - It cost you that much with Insurance? I'm with Aetna and they're pretty good.
No that's all in, I think I paid out about $1500. I was letting pantherking know how much it may run.
Also,
I really do need some new running shoes also. These air max are worn out. Maybe that will help....
mailman
04-06-03, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Savio
how much was the MRI?
$1400 if I remember correctly.
Originally posted by Savio
I really do need some new running shoes also. These air max are worn out. Maybe that will help....
That's funny. :)
where exactly does it hurt? does it hurt more going up stairs or down stairs?
sounds like tendonitis to me....possibly "runner's knee."
vpkozel
04-07-03, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Savio
I hope it's not serious. I'm going to rest it for a while then re-evaluate.
Mail - It cost you that much with Insurance? I'm with Aetna and they're pretty good.
No. I have torn my ACL twice and if you have torn it and try to excercise, the chances of you really messing up your knee increase. Call an orthopedic surgeon and ask how much it wil be for an evaluation. It should not be a whole bunch - $75 or so at the most. Then ask them for a Lochman test. They will be able to determine with about 90% accuracy if your ACL is torn. I never had an MRI done on either of my diognoses because the ACL this test showed a definite tear. If you have damaged your ACL and then try to excercise after you feel better you will increase the chance of damaging you meniscus - or cartledge that coushins your knee joint. This cannot be replaced, your ACL can. In addition, if the injury is fresh, they can try to reattach teh torn meniscus (if you have torn it). If it is torn and you can't afford surgery, you at least will know that you need to take extra care. They can also prescribe excercises that can strengthen you knee and compensate for the lack of an ACL. Finally, you may be able to purchase a custom brace (although these aren't cheap) that will keep your knee stable during twisting motions.
Go get it checked out.
how'd you hurt it in the 1st place?
I hurt it last year first of all. I believe I did it while running. I had to stay off of it for a couple weeks but was able to run again after 3 weeks of staying off it. The same this time around...was running again and the next day my knee didn't feel the same. There's no swelling anywhere that I can see but it does feel "loose". When I sit down and try to extend it, it does "pop". It doesn't hurt much going up and downstairs, I haven't really tried to put much weight on it but I know it doesn't feel right.
The wierd thing is I've played tennis for 12 years and this crap has never happened before. Though I did have tennis elbow. Right now I can't afford shit except pay off student loans. If my knee is really fucked, I'm going in the hole big time....
lj4three
04-07-03, 01:45 PM
saw the fucker off and give it to builder. he'd give at least $500 for a new colon-cutter.
if you did it while running, that's usually a sign of an over use injury. jogging is pretty rough on leg joints and lower back, especailly if your shoes suck or are worn out. From what you described, it sounds like tendonitis....do a google search on "runner's knee" and see if the rest of the sympton agree to what you are experiencing.
you don't really see people sever tendons and ligaments from jogging...however, small tears cause inflamation, ie tendonititis. Rest is the only thing that will get rid of it which is what you did last time. Anti-inflamatories will help...ibuprofen, aspririn, aleve, etc.
the popping can be actually normal. it is part of getting older. both my knees pop but I don't have any pain in them.
mathmajors
04-07-03, 04:05 PM
I can't run more than 2 or 3 hundred yards before I'm too tired to see if my knee would give out after 2 miles.
Hoopsradio
04-07-03, 04:15 PM
rub some Vagisil on it and everything will be fine
mailman
04-07-03, 04:35 PM
I didn't have to have an MRI done but the Dr wanted it done because of how old the injury was and to see how bad my meniscus was torn.
The thing that stands out to me are the leg extensions. He can't do them and whenever I tried to do them before surgery it felt like me knee was coming apart. The ACL is what keeps your knee together during such excersizes. That being said IMO he should at least visit an Ortho Dr.
mailman
04-07-03, 04:35 PM
Let me also say that the vagisil, although it seems like a good plan, probably won't work unless Savio is a pussy.
twentybelow0
04-07-03, 05:20 PM
:roflmao:
Originally posted by mailman
Let me also say that the vagisil, although it seems like a good plan, probably won't work unless Savio is a pussy.
I know that stuff doesn't work. Whoever uses it are morons :D
B/c you're actually applying it on the skin and your skin is feeling the sensation. It's all in your mind.
Thanks for the pointers....I'll look up tendonitis.
Originally posted by mailman
Ortho Dr.
I am...I'll have to find a good Doc first. Hopefully someone good and cheap.
plutosgirl
04-07-03, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Savio
I am...I'll have to find a good Doc first. Hopefully someone good and cheap.
Go straight for the ortho doc if your insurance allows, don't waste your time with General Practitioners Savio. Of course what would I know right?:rolleyes: I just scan about 10 knees a day and network directly with ortho radiologists and orthopedic surgeons and discuss their injuries in detail with the doctor's. If I'm gonna get brakes on my car, I'll be sure and ask someone who has brakes rather than someone who sells them. Here's a putt smile:)
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