Disgusted With - or - Feel Sorry For

[Farmer]

I left my desk awhile ago to take a quick trip to the latrine - on my way, I pass by a morbidly obese woman at her own desk. I mean she must be every bit of 400 pounds at least. She wears brightly colored tops which make her look like "Kool-Aid" - just a different flavor everyday....

As I pass by, I see her sneaking into her desk drawer and slyly pulling out a strofoam tray of "creme horns" - or whatever you call those nasty things...

As I walked away - at first, I thought "step away from the Creme Horn..." but then I kinda' felt sorry for her - She knows how big she is and maybe just can't stop herself !!!

what do you think when you see stuff like that?

[Yuck]

Not one way or the other. Everyone has their demons.

[QueenCityHillbilly]

I think it's comparable to my inability to quit smoking so far.

[kshead]

Originally posted by Farmer
I thought "step away from the Creme Horn..."

[builder]

Originally posted by Farmer
what do you think when you see stuff like that?

My sister is 5'2 and almost 350lbs. She's miserable, but she's not willing to do anything about it. :(

[DaveW]

Originally posted by Farmer
I left my desk awhile ago to take a quick trip to the latrine - on my way, I pass by a morbidly obese woman at her own desk. I mean she must be every bit of 400 pounds at least. She wears brightly colored tops which make her look like "Kool-Aid" - just a different flavor everyday....

As I pass by, I see her sneaking into her desk drawer and slyly pulling out a strofoam tray of "creme horns" - or whatever you call those nasty things...

As I walked away - at first, I thought "step away from the Creme Horn..." but then I kinda' felt sorry for her - She knows how big she is and maybe just can't stop herself !!!

what do you think when you see stuff like that?




we have so many "WAAAAY OVERWEIGHT" people on our floor. Pretty sad.

[sadic1]

Yeah, I'm disgusted by it, but feel sorry for those people. I assume that I can't understand why they're in that state and therefore can't judge, but like Yuck said, everyone has their demons.

[PantherPaul]

With all the medical procedures that are out there and probably can be paid for with a loan or whatever it boils down IMO to whether or not you want to do it. Easier to stuff a twinkie in her jaw than to eat an apple and take a walk around the block

[WilliamJ]

pity and ignorance

[Boo]

is she going to sue the maker of cream corns when she develops health problems?....after all, it is not her fault.

[sadic1]

Originally posted by WilliamJ
pity and ignorance
I can understand pity, but why do fat people make you feel ignorant?

If insurance companies want to reduce their costs, they should pay for surgery to get fat peoples' weight down. HMO's should provide free muzzles.

[Farmer]

McDonald's might have been afraid this guy would "eat" into their profit margin



man sues McDonald's for not hiring him (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44718-2003Apr17.html)

[builder]

Originally posted by Farmer
McDonald's might have been afraid this guy would "eat" into their profit margin



Uh oh....if he wins, there are going to be a lot of companies going out of business because of "morbidly obese" people. :rolleyes:

[sadic1]

Where exactly does the transition from "pleasantly plump" to "morbidly obese" occur? It's one thing to go from "plump" to "obese", but "pleasant" to "morbid" has to really suck.

[builder]

Around the 5000th Big Mac Extra Value Meal.

[slydevl]

I just want to be clear on something. I can still refuse to hire a chick who is ugly right? I mean thats not a disability is it?

[Lainey]

To the "chick" it is.

[builder]

Originally posted by slydevl
I can still refuse to hire a chick who is ugly right?

How ugly are we talking? I mean, if it's a restaurant and she's got like pussy sores on her face and half an eye hanging out of the socket, I'm guessing you have a case. But if she's just kinda nasty and not really the type you'd wanna bang....I doubt it.

[slydevl]

Originally posted by builder


How ugly are we talking? I mean, if it's a restaurant and she's got like pussy sores on her face and half an eye hanging out of the socket, I'm guessing you have a case. But if she's just kinda nasty and not really the type you'd wanna bang....I doubt it.

Well if the government is going to force me to hire an ugly chick she better be able to give one hell of a hand rimmer.

[Farmer]

Originally posted by builder


like pussy sores on her face and half an eye hanging out of the socket,

picture please.....

[Lainey]

You people ain't right.

[ECILAM]

I feel neither pity nor disgust. Big people don't bother me at all. The idea that they should is just another example of bullshit herd mentality.

Some big girls can be very attractive. Not all of course, any more than all "skinny" girls are attractive. Other factors come into play, such as hygiene, clothes, confidence, and vital energy. Weight alone is not the deciding factor.

Somehow, it's wrong and evil to make fun of handicapped people, senior citizens, the metally retarded, and people who fit stereotypes. But mocking and ridiculing heavy girls is A-OK. What the fuck is that? It's fucking hypocracy, pure and simple.

[kshead]

Originally posted by Lainey
You people ain't right.

You just figuring that out? :D

I'm still trying to figure out what the hell Builder is doing judging chicks to bang.

[slydevl]

Originally posted by ecilam
I feel neither pity nor disgust. Big people don't bother me at all. The idea that they should is just another example of bullshit herd mentality.

Some big girls can be very attractive. Not all of course, any more than all "skinny" girls are attractive. Other factors come into play, such as hygiene, clothes, confidence, and vital energy. Weight alone is not the deciding factor.

Somehow, it's wrong and evil to make fun of handicapped people, senior citizens, the metally retarded, and people who fit stereotypes. But mocking and ridiculing heavy girls is A-OK. What the fuck is that? It's fucking hypocracy, pure and simple.

You're fat aren't you

[chipshot]

Look everybody, it's Tony Robbins.

[builder]

Originally posted by kshead
I'm still trying to figure out what the hell Builder is doing judging chicks to bang.

Don't try to second guess my motives. You'll always lose.

[ECILAM]

You're fat aren't you

I dunno. Does 6' and 200 pounds qualify? Seems like I'd be in trouble with the Air Force if I let myself go too bad...

[ECILAM]

The point is, just because society spoonfeeds you what you're "supposed" to find visually pleasing - or anything else for that matter - doesn't mean you have to fall for it.

Why would it be assumed that since I think it's bullshit that heavy people get shit for being who they are, I must be fat myself? Hmm?

[slydevl]

Originally posted by ecilam
The point is, just because society spoonfeeds you what you're "supposed" to find visually pleasing - or anything else for that matter - doesn't mean you have to fall for it.

Why would it be assumed that since I think it's bullshit that heavy people get shit for being who they are, I must be fat myself? Hmm?

A chubby chaser then?

[builder]

Originally posted by ecilam


heavy people get shit for being who they are

Oprah told me that was the case. And Ophra has never lied.

[builder]

Originally posted by slydevl


A chubby chaser then?

apricot hanky, left pocket.

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by chipshot
Look everybody, it's Tony Robbins.

Hey, somebody had to be the voice of reason in "Shallow Hal." Hmm. Irony....

"Live With Passion!"

:bird4:

[Lainey]

Originally posted by builder


apricot hanky, left pocket.

Why do you have to post this the ONE day that I leave my hanky guide at home.

[builder]

Originally posted by Lainey


Why do you have to post this the ONE day that I leave my hanky guide at home.

Cause I knew that you left it home. Chubby Chasers need love too.

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by slydevl


A chubby chaser then?

Call it what you will. I'm just a guy who likes women, period. Race, body type, and even age are irrelevant if I like the woman in question. Beauty comes in many forms.

[builder]

SDS?

[ECILAM]

....

I don't get it.

[slydevl]

Originally posted by ecilam
....

I don't get it.

Well, if you aren't getting any its no wonder you will settle for a fattie.

[Stargazer]

Originally posted by LLG


SDS has a penchant for well endowed women.

Well put, LLG...I was trying to think how to phrase it myself...

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by slydevl


Well, if you aren't getting any its no wonder you will settle for a fattie.

It's not settling if it's what you wanted in the first place.

And who said I wasn't getting any? :sagrin:

[builder]

Originally posted by ecilam
And who said I wasn't getting any? :sagrin:

Sly assumed that cause you're fat.

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by builder


Sly assumed that cause you're fat.

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Well in that case I have nothing to worry about!

[Lainey]

Just ignore them, ecilam.

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by ecilam
...just another example of bullshit herd mentality.


The prosecution rests, Mr. Ito. :sagrin:

[DaveW]

Originally posted by Lainey
Just ignore them, ecilam.


you're asking for the impossible;)

[builder]

Originally posted by ecilam


The prosecution rests, Mr. Ito. :sagrin:

You're quoting yourself to make points? Dude...fat and stupid. Pitiful life.

[ECILAM]

"This could go on for hours..." -- Fight Club

:xyzwave:

[builder]

Originally posted by ecilam
"This could go on for hours..." -- Fight Club


Fight Club is like so passe'.

[meatpile]

Originally posted by builder


My sister is 5'2 and almost 350lbs. She's miserable, but she's not willing to do anything about it. :(

I've never fucked a fat girl.

[meatpile]

Originally posted by ecilam


It's not settling if it's what you wanted in the first place.

And who said I wasn't getting any? :sagrin:

Are you black? I think black guys like to fuck big fat chicks.

[DaveW]

Originally posted by meatpile


Are you black? I think black guys like to fuck big fat chicks.


especially fat and white.

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by meatpile


I've never fucked a fat girl.

Are you asking builder to set you up?

[ECILAM]

:lol2: Nope. I'm white. The big stereotype is that white guys like big tits and black guys like big butts. I like both. And as much as I love Maxim and magazines like that, I get annoyed that they don't put more voluptuous models in their magazine. I'm not even talking about the "supersize" mega-huge types that started this thread. I just like a very pronounced and exaggerated hourglass figure on a woman, and you can't get that in the size 5 "supermodel" type that's so prominent in the culture.

It's not that big a deal. I've dated them small and large, black and white. I don't knock others for their own personal preferences... that stuff is genetic and can't be helped. But I do think it's dumb to "judge" and mistreat people based solely on their size. Why it's such a big deal to even question that, I still don't get. I just question it, that's all.

[builder]

Originally posted by meatpile


I've never fucked a fat girl.

Don't look at me like that. Just cause we're from SC don't mean we did that shit.

[slydevl]

Size 5 is too fucking big. Give me a nice size 2

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by slydevl
Size 5 is too fucking big. Give me a nice size 2

Hey, different stokes. That's the whole point.

[builder]

Originally posted by ecilam


Hey, different stokes. That's the whole point.

Back for morem huh? Guess that fits you since you seem to like excesses. :D

[kshead]

Originally posted by ecilam
I just like a very pronounced and exaggerated hourglass figure on a woman, and you can't get that in the size 5 "supermodel" type that's so prominent in the culture.


:xyzthumbs I'm tired of stick figures.

[builder]

Only if she's 5'3.

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by ecilam


Hey, different stokes. That's the whole point.

I hear Anna Nicoile is looking - maybe you should give her a call.

[kshead]

Originally posted by vpkozel


I hear Anna Nicoile is looking - maybe you should give her a call.

He said hourglass, not Big Ben.

Edit: But going back about 10-15 years? Before she became a big, fat, slobby caricature of the woman she used to be? I'da done her.

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by kshead


:xyzthumbs I'm tired of stick figures.

When I see these vertical waif supermodels on TV or wherever, I don't want to ask them out; I want to offer them a cheeseburger. They look emaciated. It's like "Damn, are you OK?" That shit can't be healthy.

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by vpkozel


I hear Anna Nicoile is looking - maybe you should give her a call.

Four or five years ago, I'd have said hell yeah. These days.... uh. I dunno...

She was damn hot back in the day.

[builder]

Originally posted by ecilam


Four or five years ago, I'd have said hell yeah. These days.... uh. I dunno...

So you do have a weight limit?

[meatpile]

Originally posted by ecilam


When I see these vertical waif supermodels on TV or wherever, I don't want to ask them out; I want to offer them a cheeseburger. They look emaciated. It's like "Damn, are you OK?" That shit can't be healthy.

Dude. That's alot different than the 400lb land whale Boo started this thread about.

A girl that's size 5-9 ain't gonna weigh 400lbs.

[builder]

Originally posted by meatpile


Dude. That's alot different than the 400lb land whale Farmer started this thread about.

So true there meat. It's okay to be BIG but not skinny.

[meatpile]

It's been awhile, but hee's how I always determined whether I should fuck some chick:

I have to imagine that I've just come in her, and my dick is still in her. As I'm pulling out - and I'm done with this and she's laying there and I'm done and I'm pulling out - do I hate her?

If so, I shouldn't fuck her. There were times when i found it difficult to imagine this, so i'd go into the bathroom and jack off. Upon leaving the bathroom, and returning to my 'date', if I still wanted to fuck her, I would.

I never even went on a date with a fat girl. Had a couple of drunk ones try to kiss me. That still haunts me.:(

[Yuck]

Originally posted by meatpile
There were times when i found it difficult to imagine this, so i'd go into the bathroom and jack off. Upon leaving the bathroom, and returning to my 'date', if I still wanted to fuck her, I would.



See, that's the kind of shit they need to teach in school.

[gridfaniker]

what's with the Marty Feldman eyes?

[kshead]

Originally posted by NormanNiner
Anna Nicole did look good in her prime:


It's hard to believe that the pic you posted is the same woman embarrassing herself on E! now.

[builder]

Originally posted by kshead


It's hard to believe that the pic you posted is the same woman embarrassing herself on E! now.

drugs, liquor, drugs, stupidity.

[builder]

Originally posted by NormanNiner


Not to mention a few racks of ribs.

Let's not bring the herds into this.

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by gridfaniker
what's with the Marty Feldman eyes?

DAMN YOU!! MY SECRET... HOW COULD YOU???

**sob** :mercy:

[gridfaniker]

:cool:

[ECILAM]

Hey, I have that one!

[sadic1]

Originally posted by ecilam
I feel neither pity nor disgust. Big people don't bother me at all. The idea that they should is just another example of bullshit herd mentality.

Some big girls can be very attractive. Not all of course, any more than all "skinny" girls are attractive. Other factors come into play, such as hygiene, clothes, confidence, and vital energy. Weight alone is not the deciding factor.

Somehow, it's wrong and evil to make fun of handicapped people, senior citizens, the metally retarded, and people who fit stereotypes. But mocking and ridiculing heavy girls is A-OK. What the fuck is that? It's fucking hypocracy, pure and simple.

This is an insightful post, and I agree. That said, my wife is a size 2 with D cups.

[DaveW]

Originally posted by sadic1
That said, my wife is a size 2 with D cups.


pics please....especially if you want us to believe this

[gutter]

Originally posted by DaveW



pics please....especially if you want us to believe this

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by ecilam
Somehow, it's wrong and evil to make fun of handicapped people, senior citizens, the metally retarded, and people who fit stereotypes. But mocking and ridiculing heavy girls is A-OK. What the fuck is that? It's fucking hypocracy, pure and simple.

For me it has to do with the fact that all of those other groups cannot do anything about their situation. The simple fact of the matter is that very few people are not able to change their weight by combinations eating less or excercising. It is simple math really - if you burn more calories than you take in, you will lose weight. If you believe all of the people that say they have no control, then the US has like 8000% more people with thyroid problems than the rest of the world. But it is easier to say that the situation is hopeless than it is to put down the ho-ho's, get off the couch, and go for a walk.

And your politically correct line of thinking has a lot to do with the fact that our children are alarmingly obese. I travel to Europe at least once a year, and I almost NEVER see fat kids like we have.

[plutosgirl]

Originally posted by vpkozel



I travel to Europe at least once a year, and I almost NEVER see fat kids like we have.

Do you think they are more active, use Mcdonalds and fast food as a treat rather than a norm, or is the culture just ultra aware of not being over weight?

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by plutosgirl


Do you think they are more active, use Mcdonalds and fast food as a treat rather than a norm, or is the culture just ultra aware of not being over weight?

I think it's the first and second points.

[kshead]

Originally posted by plutosgirl


Do you think they are more active, use Mcdonalds and fast food as a treat rather than a norm, or is the culture just ultra aware of not being over weight?

More active. They don't watch 50 hours of TV a week.

I think I mentioned this a while back, but I saw more fat kids at Myrtle Beach last year than I have ever seen in my life. We rode the elevator with a 12 year old that was at least 200 pounds and was wheezing after walking from the pool to the elevator. Scary.

[meatpile]

No fat people in Boulder, CO.

Or for that matter, Eugene, OR.

For the first coupla years we lived here, when people would ask Janelle about Charlotte, she'd answer 'Lots of fat people here.'

[sadic1]

Originally posted by vpkozel


For me it has to do with the fact that all of those other groups cannot do anything about their situation. The simple fact of the matter is that very few people are not able to change their weight by combinations eating less or excercising. It is simple math really - if you burn more calories than you take in, you will lose weight. If you believe all of the people that say they have no control, then the US has like 8000% more people with thyroid problems than the rest of the world. But it is easier to say that the situation is hopeless than it is to put down the ho-ho's, get off the couch, and go for a walk.

And your politically correct line of thinking has a lot to do with the fact that our children are alarmingly obese. I travel to Europe at least once a year, and I almost NEVER see fat kids like we have.

While this argument probably applies to the vast majority of overweight people, feeling free to judge them this way carries with it the same pitfalls as prescribing completely to any stereotype. When people see really fat people, especially when they're eating, they automatically judge them as lazy. We've been much more conditioned over the years to be careful about judging other people in such a way. For instance, while many of the steroetypes about people of other races may be generally true on average, most of us know that it's unfair to assume those things about any person of another race we meet without having spent time to get to know them. As ecilam also alluded to, we also assume that overweight people are unhappy being overweight. This may also be true in general, especially of the "morbidly obese", but not all bigger people. The diet and exercize thing is also a somewhat sticky issue. A lot of people don't have time or money to do these things in such a way as to help their situation. While eating nothing IS cheap, eating foods that aren't loaded with fat and carbs is not. Finally, doctors are putting kids and adults on mood altering drugs by the scores these days (which is fucked up), and many if not most of them promote weight gain. I have to believe that with such high numbers of people on these drugs, it has to add to the general trend of obesity.

Again, I'm not disagreeing with you, but there are numerous factors out there that can invalidate the steroetype for some percentage of obese people. To me, that's a signal to refrain from judging any of them in the same way I would refrain from judging anyone who looks to have the potential to meet a racial or other stereotype. I think the problem is that people often WANT to assume the stereotype is true because it tweaks their competitive nature and makes them feel better about themselves. It's about the predisposition to judgementalism.

[Boo]

if being fat were out of control to certain people, then we would have seen fat jews in nazi concentration camps....I don't recall seeing any, do you?

[kshead]

I think if we started making fun of all those other groups too, things would be just fine.

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by sadic1


While this argument probably applies to the vast majority of overweight people, feeling free to judge them this way carries with it the same pitfalls as prescribing completely to any stereotype. When people see really fat people, especially when they're eating, they automatically judge them as lazy. We've been much more conditioned over the years to be careful about judging other people in such a way. For instance, while many of the steroetypes about people of other races may be generally true on average, most of us know that it's unfair to assume those things about any person of another race we meet without having spent time to get to know them. As ecilam also alluded to, we also assume that overweight people are unhappy being overweight. This may also be true in general, especially of the "morbidly obese", but not all bigger people. The diet and exercize thing is also a somewhat sticky issue. A lot of people don't have time or money to do these things in such a way as to help their situation. While eating nothing IS cheap, eating foods that aren't loaded with fat and carbs is not. Finally, doctors are putting kids and adults on mood altering drugs by the scores these days (which is fucked up), and many if not most of them promote weight gain. I have to believe that with such high numbers of people on these drugs, it has to add to the general trend of obesity.

Again, I'm not disagreeing with you, but there are numerous factors out there that can invalidate the steroetype for some percentage of obese people. To me, that's a signal to refrain from judging any of them in the same way I would refrain from judging anyone who looks to have the potential to meet a racial or other stereotype. I think the problem is that people often WANT to assume the stereotype is true because it tweaks their competitive nature and makes them feel better about themselves. It's about the predisposition to judgementalism.

What exactly is your point?
If you aren't disagreeing with me, then what are you doing?

[sadic1]

Originally posted by Boo
if being fat were out of control to certain people, then we would have seen fat jews in nazi concentration camps....I don't recall seeing any, do you?

Please bear with the spirit of what I'm saying here. Starvation and dehydration will always make you skinny. I wouldn't call someone lazy simply because they were unwilling to live like people in concentration camps. Also, I don't think many of them were on Prozac.

[sadic1]

Originally posted by vpkozel
What exactly is your point?
If you aren't disagreeing with me, then what are you doing?

I'm saying that anytime exceptions to a steroetype DO exist, and in this case we know they do, the error is not in acknowledging that the steroetype is generally true. The error is in assuming it's true of every individual you encounter that looks that way. As a society, we seem to feel more free to do that to fat people than we are to people of different race.

[Honeygirl]

Well, this has been an interesting read.

I think what most people don't `get' about overweight people, is that is the result of an addiction. Just like drug addicts, gamblers, alcoholics - there are the same triggers, the same patterns and the same struggle - but with a different `drug'. Whether that addiction is triggered by a horrific childhood, or whether it's a coping mechanism for stressful times - whatever, it's has the same components of any addiction. For those that think this is a bit of a giggle, and have enjoyed sitting back taking pot shots at how they need to get off their bums and exercise - I wonder if you'd do the same to an alcoholic or a drug addict? I guess there is more sympathy to those addictions because people can (perhaps) see that their `thing' probably creates a physical need for more and more. It's not so much that with overeaters, but a propensity to use food as their outlet for the issues that they're facing. The woman with the four hundred pound body has the same addiction as the woman who weighs 125 pounds and chooses to purge her binges and control her addiction through vomiting and laxitive abuse - it's the same addiction. Generally people who are obese tend to know far more about what they should be doing in terms of diet and exercise and the workings of the metobolic system, just like an alcoholic would know about liver damage and what his addiction is doing to him/her.

BTW, I'm referring to women specifically when talking about eating disorders - mainly because women in general have a greater propensity to use food as their dependency - it's not to say that men don't have this addiction.

[Shrapnel]

All I got to say is, Fat Girls Need Lovin' Too. So come on fellas, hop on and let her have it.

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by sadic1


I'm saying that anytime exceptions to a steroetype DO exist, and in this case we know they do, the error is not in acknowledging that the steroetype is generally true. The error is in assuming it's true of every individual you encounter that looks that way. As a society, we seem to feel more free to do that to fat people than we are to people of different race.

I know that there are exceptions to the stereotypes - I accounted for that twice in my post

Originally posted by vpkozel
The simple fact of the matter is that very few people are not able to change their weight by combinations eating less or excercising.

If you believe all of the people that say they have no control, then the US has like 8000% more people with thyroid problems than the rest of the world.

None of that changes my belief that MOST people can control their weight. Very few handicapped, old, or mentally retarded people can control their ability to move limbs, age, or brain activity. Do you disagree with that?

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by vpkozel
And your politically correct line of thinking has a lot to do with the fact that our children are alarmingly obese.

Just so there's no mistake, I HATE PC. It's not about touchy-feely self esteem issues; it's about being a logical person who treats people based on their deeds, words, and actions, not what they look like.

But I see what you're saying.

[slydevl]

Originally posted by LLG



It's a shame there aren't more logical people in the world.

Screw logical people....apparently we need more fat skanks

[WilliamJ]

Originally posted by slydevl


Screw logical people....apparently we need more fat skanks they need lovin too.

[Honeygirl]

Originally posted by ecilam


Just so there's no mistake, I HATE PC. It's not about touchy-feely self esteem issues; it's about being a logical person who treats people based on their deeds, words, and actions, not what they look like. :applause: :applause: :applause: I agree with everything you've said so far Ecilam - but so far, this stands out the most. :)

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by Honeygirl
Well, this has been an interesting read.

I think what most people don't `get' about overweight people, is that is the result of an addiction. Just like drug addicts, gamblers, alcoholics - there are the same triggers, the same patterns and the same struggle - but with a different `drug'. Whether that addiction is triggered by a horrific childhood, or whether it's a coping mechanism for stressful times - whatever, it's has the same components of any addiction. For those that think this is a bit of a giggle, and have enjoyed sitting back taking pot shots at how they need to get off their bums and exercise - I wonder if you'd do the same to an alcoholic or a drug addict? I guess there is more sympathy to those addictions because people can (perhaps) see that their `thing' probably creates a physical need for more and more. It's not so much that with overeaters, but a propensity to use food as their outlet for the issues that they're facing. The woman with the four hundred pound body has the same addiction as the woman who weighs 125 pounds and chooses to purge her binges and control her addiction through vomiting and laxitive abuse - it's the same addiction. Generally people who are obese tend to know far more about what they should be doing in terms of diet and exercise and the workings of the metobolic system, just like an alcoholic would know about liver damage and what his addiction is doing to him/her.

BTW, I'm referring to women specifically when talking about eating disorders - mainly because women in general have a greater propensity to use food as their dependency - it's not to say that men don't have this addiction.

I would consider a true addiction or psychological eating disorder as a different case, but I also believe that both of these are vastly overused as excuses here in the States. Addictions should roughly occur at the same percenatge all over the world, but these disorders occur in a diproportiate rate in the US. That leads me to believe that there is an over diagnosis of this. That belief, coupled with the politically correct trend to absolve everyone of personal responsibility says to me that something is not right with the statistics.

[sadic1]

Originally posted by vpkozel


I know that there are exceptions to the stereotypes - I accounted for that twice in my post



None of that changes my belief that MOST people can control their weight. Very few handicapped, old, or mentally retarded people can control their ability to move limbs, age, or brain activity. Do you disagree with that?

As I said, I don't disagree with what you're saying at all. I disagree with how most people react to these people. Most peoples' first reaction is to judge them harshly for their condition and to have no pity for them. Even in the 99+% people that they are correct about, I find this to be an inappropriate reaction. It's as though being caring or merciful towards people costs them something. In my mind, I pity the small percentage of people who get judged wrongly not only for being a victim of their condition, but for being judged unfairly. I pity the vast majority who get judged accurately for whatever psychological problems that have led them to lose control of themselves in this way, and for living in such a merciless and materialistic society where people hold onto a little bit of unconditional kindness like it's their last dollar.

I think it's a very strange world we live in if people have to be faultless for others to pity or care about them.

[LLG]

Originally posted by Honeygirl
:applause: :applause: :applause: I agree with everything you've said so far Ecilam - but so far, this stands out the most. :)

What HG said!

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by vpkozel
None of that changes my belief that MOST people can control their weight.

My question is, again, why is it people should worry about what they weigh in the first place?

In my case, I have maintain a certain level of physical fitness due to military regulations. And weight becomes a problem when it causes health complications, or in the worst case, impairs your ability to fuction and move around. In the latter case, heredity and medical conditions do play a role in people's ability to "control their weight.

For everyone else, what's the problem, other than, "well, I just think she looks gross," or "OH. MY. GOD. Becky, LOOK. AT. HER BUTT."? Often, those people who get pointed out and laughed at in public have something else in addition to their weight that makes them look awkward or otherwise unattractive. Like "tacky" clothes that don't fit, or a dirty and sloppy appearance. Again, what's wrong with admitting that full-figured women are attractive - like any other woman - when they carry themselves with grace and confidence and glow with their own vital energy?

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by sadic1


As I said, I don't disagree with what you're saying at all. I disagree with how most people react to these people. Most peoples' first reaction is to judge them harshly for their condition and to have no pity for them. Even in the 99+% people that they are correct about, I find this to be an inappropriate reaction. It's as though being caring or merciful towards people costs them something. In my mind, I pity the small percentage of people who get judged wrongly not only for being a victim of their condition, but for being judged unfairly. I pity the vast majority who get judged accurately for whatever psychological problems that have led them to lose control of themselves in this way, and for living in such a merciless and materialistic society where people hold onto a little bit of unconditional kindness like it's their last dollar.

I think it's a very strange world we live in if people have to be faultless for others to pity or care about them.

Just so we are VERY clear about all of this - I do not treat an overwait person any differently than I would a skinny one. I was addressing the question that ecliam asked response to farmers original post.

[Honeygirl]

Originally posted by vpkozel


I would consider a true addiction or psychological eating disorder as a different case, but I also believe that both of these are vastly overused as excuses here in the States. Addictions should roughly occur at the same percenatge all over the world, but these disorders occur in a diproportiate rate in the US. That leads me to believe that there is an over diagnosis of this. That belief, coupled with the politically correct trend to absolve everyone of personal responsibility says to me that something is not right with the statistics.
Don't get me wrong VP - I'm all for personal responsibility as well and get frustrated when I see vastly overweight people saying "I've tried everything - it's my glands". That's bollocks and I think in the majority of cases, there is an issue with using food as a coping mechanism - and in that light, it would be a dependency. I'm not saying that's the case in ALL cases, but in the majority - I'd say it could be. I work with a lot of offenders with alcoholism and drug addiction - and I see the same denial as well. That's part of the cycle. Sometimes actually sitting there and saying `I've got a problem with this - it's not about liking potato chips - it's about using the chips to control things in my life' is the hardest thing to do. It's an admission - and it's scary to face up to the fact that food is sometimes the only thing you can control in your life, and that you've got to face the demons and deal with the crap that is behind the addiction.

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by slydevl


Screw logical people....apparently we need more fat skanks

Confident, vivacious women who carry themselves with style and self-assurance aren't skanks. I guess fat skanks are your bag, then?

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by ecilam


Confident, vivacious women who carry themselves with style and self-assurance aren't skanks. I guess fat skanks are your bag, then?

What if they where spandex? Spandex makes them a skank, right?

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by vpkozel


What if they where spandex? Spandex makes them a skank, right?

:sagrin: I'm not saying it can't be pulled off, but spandex ain't really high on my list. I think that falls under "style." You never know... :lol2:

[DaveW]

Hey Ecilam, do you keep a bag of flour on you at all times?

[plutosgirl]

I do have a couple of points I would like to bring up about this thread. This is a classic example of why some of the TBR women fear if they post their picture or come out to the gatherings, they would be the subject of some of the harshness displayed here.
It's much more acceptable for a man to be over weight in today's society than a woman -and ya'll can yuck yuck and drink beer and cram chips in your mouth while the women are expected to chew on carrots and drink water. In the words of HG, Sod that for a game of soldiers!
Now at this point, everyone's thinking, pluto's fat. Yeah, I'm a classic thick chick, and I'm getting thicker. In the recent couple of years I've been down the thin road, I didnt' feel as well and I liked myself even less. The fact that men who wouldn't have glanced my way before, now asking me out, made me realize what a sick society we live in. I didn't gain weight back for that reason, I did it because I was unhealthy at the weight I was, and unhappy. Regardless of any weight I have ever been , I 've never sat alone on a Saturday night unless I wanted to and have never gone out with an ugly or stupid guy just because I was lonely. As far as what you 'find attractive', that's another story. If you find you just can't love a thick, chunky, or even fat girl, that's ok, I feel the same about blue eyed men for no reason other than that....however, I wouldn't rule you out as a friend or try to make you feel like I'm gonna ostricize you for having blue eyes if I happen to be in a social place with you. Imagine what interesting person I might miss the chance of meeting if I were that shallow minded?

[ECILAM]

I'm fresh out. Of flour, that is.

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by plutosgirl
I do have a couple of points I would like to bring up about this thread. This is a classic example of why some of the TBR women fear if they post their picture or come out to the gatherings, they would be the subject of some of the harshness displayed here.
It's much more acceptable for a man to be over weight in today's society than a woman -and ya'll can yuck yuck and drink beer and cram chips in your mouth while the women are expected to chew on carrots and drink water. In the words of HG, Sod that for a game of soldiers!
Now at this point, everyone's thinking, pluto's fat. Yeah, I'm a classic thick chick, and I'm getting thicker. In the recent couple of years I've been down the thin road, I didnt' feel as well and I liked myself even less. The fact that men who wouldn't have glanced my way before, now asking me out, made me realize what a sick society we live in. I didn't gain weight back for that reason, I did it because I was unhealthy at the weight I was, and unhappy. Regardless of any weight I have ever been , I 've never sat alone on a Saturday night unless I wanted to and have never gone out with an ugly or stupid guy just because I was lonely. As far as what you 'find attractive', that's another story. If you find you just can't love a thick, chunky, or even fat girl, that's ok, I feel the same about blue eyed men for no reason other than that....however, I wouldn't rule you out as a friend or try to make you feel like I'm gonna ostricize you for having blue eyes if I happen to be in a social place with you. Imagine what interesting person I might miss the chance of meeting if I were that shallow minded?


Yeah, yeah, yeah, but do you wear spandex?

[kshead]

Originally posted by vpkozel

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but do you wear spandex?

She's gonna whoop you good for that one.

[slydevl]

If I knew how easy it was to get skinny I would have started years ago.

Edit: Some people think it is easier to be overweight. I think these people are lazy. You can justify it all you want but being overweight is unhealthy. In extreme cases being too skinny is unhealthy. But I would be willing to bet maybe 2 or 3% of the population is too skinny while 60-70% of the population is overweight.

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by kshead


She's gonna whoop you.

:D

[plutosgirl]

Originally posted by vpkozel



Yeah, yeah, yeah, but do you wear spandex?

only when I'm fryin chitlins.:D


did i spell that right? What is a chitlin anyway?:(

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by plutosgirl
I do have a couple of points I would like to bring up about this thread. This is a classic example of why some of the TBR women fear if they post their picture or come out to the gatherings, they would be the subject of some of the harshness displayed here.
It's much more acceptable for a man to be over weight in today's society than a woman -and ya'll can yuck yuck and drink beer and cram chips in your mouth while the women are expected to chew on carrots and drink water. In the words of HG, Sod that for a game of soldiers!
Now at this point, everyone's thinking, pluto's fat. Yeah, I'm a classic thick chick, and I'm getting thicker. In the recent couple of years I've been down the thin road, I didnt' feel as well and I liked myself even less. The fact that men who wouldn't have glanced my way before, now asking me out, made me realize what a sick society we live in. I didn't gain weight back for that reason, I did it because I was unhealthy at the weight I was, and unhappy. Regardless of any weight I have ever been , I 've never sat alone on a Saturday night unless I wanted to and have never gone out with an ugly or stupid guy just because I was lonely. As far as what you 'find attractive', that's another story. If you find you just can't love a thick, chunky, or even fat girl, that's ok, I feel the same about blue eyed men for no reason other than that....however, I wouldn't rule you out as a friend or try to make you feel like I'm gonna ostricize you for having blue eyes if I happen to be in a social place with you. Imagine what interesting person I might miss the chance of meeting if I were that shallow minded?

Don't feel bad. Today I just found out I'm fat myself. :rolleyes: It came as a shock at first, but apparently it's not so bad. Maybe I'll ease up on the CocaCola.

[DaveW]

Originally posted by plutosgirl
I do have a couple of points I would like to bring up about this thread. This is a classic example of why some of the TBR women fear if they post their picture or come out to the gatherings, they would be the subject of some of the harshness displayed here.
It's much more acceptable for a man to be over weight in today's society than a woman -and ya'll can yuck yuck and drink beer and cram chips in your mouth while the women are expected to chew on carrots and drink water. In the words of HG, Sod that for a game of soldiers!
Now at this point, everyone's thinking, pluto's fat. Yeah, I'm a classic thick chick, and I'm getting thicker. In the recent couple of years I've been down the thin road, I didnt' feel as well and I liked myself even less. The fact that men who wouldn't have glanced my way before, now asking me out, made me realize what a sick society we live in. I didn't gain weight back for that reason, I did it because I was unhealthy at the weight I was, and unhappy. Regardless of any weight I have ever been , I 've never sat alone on a Saturday night unless I wanted to and have never gone out with an ugly or stupid guy just because I was lonely. As far as what you 'find attractive', that's another story. If you find you just can't love a thick, chunky, or even fat girl, that's ok, I feel the same about blue eyed men for no reason other than that....however, I wouldn't rule you out as a friend or try to make you feel like I'm gonna ostricize you for having blue eyes if I happen to be in a social place with you. Imagine what interesting person I might miss the chance of meeting if I were that shallow minded?


blah blah blah...being big is no reason not to post a pic on tbr. Always remember..Doesn't matter how big you are. Someone from TBR will still be willing to fuck you.;)

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by plutosgirl
What is a chitlin anyway?:(

pork intestines

[chipshot]

I'm phat.

[WilliamJ]

Originally posted by chipshot
I'm phat. yer all about the Bling Bling

[plutosgirl]

Originally posted by DaveW



blah blah blah...being big is no reason not to post a pic on tbr. Always remember..Doesn't matter how big you are. Someone from TBR will still be willing to fuck you.;)

I said 'some' women. I ain't skeeerd.

[chipshot]

I'm scared to post my picture because I too damn ugly.

[Honeygirl]

Originally posted by plutosgirl
I do have a couple of points I would like to bring up about this thread. This is a classic example of why some of the TBR women fear if they post their picture or come out to the gatherings, they would be the subject of some of the harshness displayed here.
It's much more acceptable for a man to be over weight in today's society than a woman -and ya'll can yuck yuck and drink beer and cram chips in your mouth while the women are expected to chew on carrots and drink water. In the words of HG, Sod that for a game of soldiers!
Now at this point, everyone's thinking, pluto's fat. Yeah, I'm a classic thick chick, and I'm getting thicker. In the recent couple of years I've been down the thin road, I didnt' feel as well and I liked myself even less. The fact that men who wouldn't have glanced my way before, now asking me out, made me realize what a sick society we live in. I didn't gain weight back for that reason, I did it because I was unhealthy at the weight I was, and unhappy. Regardless of any weight I have ever been , I 've never sat alone on a Saturday night unless I wanted to and have never gone out with an ugly or stupid guy just because I was lonely. As far as what you 'find attractive', that's another story. If you find you just can't love a thick, chunky, or even fat girl, that's ok, I feel the same about blue eyed men for no reason other than that....however, I wouldn't rule you out as a friend or try to make you feel like I'm gonna ostricize you for having blue eyes if I happen to be in a social place with you. Imagine what interesting person I might miss the chance of meeting if I were that shallow minded?
Plu - you rule. I agree with everything you have said here - and more. Except for the blue eyed thing - :D But yes - all other points agreed on! I've starved myself to get super skinny - and got very ill because of it. I'd rather not go into that here - but suffice to say that we're going to have fun swapping stories when I meet you matey! :)

[slydevl]

Originally posted by plutosgirl


I said 'some' women. I ain't skeeerd.

To fuck a TBR guy or post your picture? :thinking:

[kshead]

Originally posted by chipshot
I'm scared to post my picture because I too damn ugly.

I survived it. I may have scared the hell out of some people or maybe blinded them with my balding forehead. But what the hell.

[slydevl]

Originally posted by Honeygirl
I've starved myself to get super skinny - and got very ill because of it.

Well theres your problem. You don't need to starve yourself to get skinny. Just burn more calories than you take in. Exercise is always hard at first but after awhile you start to crave it. Its just having the willpower to get over that hump.

[Honeygirl]

Originally posted by chipshot
I'm scared to post my picture because I too damn ugly. Bollocks! Get posting Chip - we've all done it. You're one of us now - you gotta. It's the rules. :)

[plutosgirl]

Originally posted by slydevl


To fuck a TBR guy or post your picture? :thinking:

:mad:

[sadic1]

Originally posted by vpkozel
Just so we are VERY clear about all of this - I do not treat an overwait person any differently than I would a skinny one. I was addressing the question that ecliam asked response to farmers original post.

I understand and appreciate that. The question I wish more people would ask themselves, and I have no reason to make any negative assumption about you in particular, is what they THINK when they encounter one of these people. My belief is that many people treat these people fine (except the real raving assholes), but in their minds automatically resent and judge these people as weak or inferior for not controlling their weight. I'd prefer that people were able to understand that these people may have the physical ability to control their weight, but they have some pain or issue in their lives that they are not yet able to overcome that is making it so they are not. For some reason, many people seem unable to extend their hearts to people that they feel aren't meeting their standards of effort. To me, either way and for whatever reason, it's aperson in pain, and that in and of itself is deserving of my sympathy. I guess the judgementalism is partially rooted in the stories we read about these people seeking compensation for their own problems via lawsuits. The problem is that this is a very small percentage of people, but it hardens peoples' hearts to all of them because of the allegiance so many hold to the almighty dollar. That's my rant.

[Farmer]

alright Farmer for starting a 7 page post so far...

I personally think woman look MUCH better with a little meat on their bones. My brother's (now "ex) girl is a waif - I mean - bean-pole.... She has tiny little "waist and protruding hip bones that you can see cause all of her pants (even pj bottoms) are "low-riders" yuck! That looks more skanky to me than a woman with some softer curves. I mean - what if that girl got sick? where are her reserves?? She's waste away while a "healthy" girl would still be kicking... That's more attractive IMO.

Oh and I have BLUE eyes :mad: and am a bit heavier than I should be probably for 5'10" - I'm probably like 180.

[slydevl]

I've seen Chip. I think builder would do him.

[Honeygirl]

Originally posted by slydevl


Well theres your problem. You don't need to starve yourself to get skinny. Just burn more calories than you take in. Exercise is always hard at first but after awhile you start to crave it. Its just having the willpower to get over that hump. Yup - I know that now Sly - but at the time I didn't see the logical way around it. I guess it goes back to my previous posts about disorders. Plus, I got on a `roll' (no pun intended) with the diet and exercise thing - and it wasn't healthy. I now have a greater understanding - but not just from a physical point of view - but from a psychological standpoint. Put it this way - I had to tackle it from a different view...move through some other crap before I got to the problem. :)

[plutosgirl]

Originally posted by sadic1


The question I wish more people would ask themselves, and I have no reason to make any negative assumption about you in particular, is what they THINK when they encounter one of these people.

When I encounter a morbidly obese person I think...damn that's sad. Then immediately I think, why don't they do something to help themselves? That leads to 'what the ___ is it to you'? Do something to help yourself. Then I quit worrying about them and start worrying about my weight, bills, job, health, social skills, organizational skills etc........

[slydevl]

Originally posted by Honeygirl
Yup - I know that now Sly - but at the time I didn't see the logical way around it. I guess it goes back to my previous posts about disorders. Plus, I got on a `roll' (no pun intended) with the diet and exercise thing - and it wasn't healthy. I now have a greater understanding - but not just from a physical point of view - but from a psychological standpoint. Put it this way - I had to tackle it from a different view...move through some other crap before I got to the problem. :)

The problem is people are looking for ways to lose too much too quick. Starving yourself is a cop out. Shoot for losing a pound a week or every other week and before you know it you've lost 25-50 lbs in a year. Its these people who think they need to lose 10 lbs in a month that doom themselves to failure.

[chipshot]

Originally posted by slydevl
I've seen Chip. I think builder would do him.

Im not sure if I should be flattered or insulted.

[plutosgirl]

Alright alright, I apologize to all the blue eyed men out there.... It's one of those once bitten, twice shy deals. ok???? I'M SORRY!:)

[kshead]

Originally posted by chipshot


Im not sure if I should be flattered or insulted.

I was wondering that too.

[slydevl]

I have blue eyes. Those along with my caring, sensitive personality make me very attractive.

[chipshot]

I have a brown eye.

[WilliamJ]

Originally posted by slydevl
I have blue eyes. Those along with my caring, sensitive personality make me very attractive. yeah i think the TBR ladies are very attracted to your caring sensative personality.

[WilliamJ]

Originally posted by chipshot
I have a brown eye. that's what builder ia attracted to.

[slydevl]

Originally posted by WilliamJ
yeah i think the TBR ladies are very attracted to your caring sensative personality.

Who can blame them?

I make them moist.

[plutosgirl]

Originally posted by slydevl
I have blue eyes. Those along with my caring, sensitive personality make me very attractive.

http://thisboardrocks.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29362&highlight=stillborn

[WilliamJ]

Originally posted by slydevl




I make them moist. i think you make them fume....big difference.

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by WilliamJ
i think you make them fume....big difference.

:cold:

Ow.

[slydevl]

Originally posted by plutosgirl


http://thisboardrocks.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29362&highlight=stillborn

SEe I tried to help that poor woman

[WilliamJ]

Originally posted by slydevl


SEe I tried to help that poor woman you sure did.

[plutosgirl]

mmm hmmmm.

[Farmer]

I had never made it as far as the "hang a baby doll by a noose in her cube; she'll get the hint..."

that's awful sly..... :soda:

[sadic1]

Originally posted by plutosgirl


When I encounter a morbidly obese person I think...damn that's sad. Then immediately I think, why don't they do something to help themselves? That leads to 'what the ___ is it to you'? Do something to help yourself. Then I quit worrying about them and start worrying about my weight, bills, job, health, social skills, organizational skills etc........

I think that's a much more positive way to deal with these encounters. We've all got stuff we don't deal with as well as we could, and thay all affect us in significant ways that we may not even be aware of. The fact that for fat people this results in a visual affect makes them more of a target for judgement by others. It's good to treat people the way you would like to be treated. It's better and of course more difficult to think of people as you would like them to think of you.

[Honeygirl]

Originally posted by sadic1


I think that's a much more positive way to deal with these encounters. We've all got stuff we don't deal with as well as we could, and thay all affect us in significant ways that we may not even be aware of. The fact that for fat people this results in a visual affect makes them more of a target for judgement by others. It's good to treat people the way you would like to be treated. It's better and of course more difficult to think of people as you would like them to think of you. Right on the money Sadic - you've got it in one. That's what I've been trying to say - but I don't think I'm making as much sense...:( Either that - or people ain't reading my rants. Possibly the latter!

[slydevl]

When I see a fat person its not like I put my finger in their face and horse laugh them. I have the common courtesy to wait until there is a 50/50 chance they are out of hearing range.

[plutosgirl]

Originally posted by slydevl
When I see a fat person its not like I put my finger in their face and horse laugh them. I have the common courtesy to wait until there is a 50/50 chance they are out of hearing range.

I have to say something or I'm gonna bust wide open..... ( no jokes please). Sly, I've seen people here say some pretty ugly things about you and you always took them in stride- it always hurt me for you. Tell me, before you did lose weight, did it not hurt you to the core?

[Fred]

Originally posted by ecilam


I dunno. Does 6' and 200 pounds qualify? Seems like I'd be in trouble with the Air Force if I let myself go too bad...



:mushy: :mushy: :mushy:

[Honeygirl]

Originally posted by Fred




:mushy: :mushy: :mushy:
Bugger off Fred - get in line! :D

[Fred]

Originally posted by ecilam
The big stereotype is that white guys like big tits and black guys like big butts. I like both. :mushy: :mushy: :mushy: :mushy: :mushy: :mushy:

[DaveW]

Originally posted by plutosgirl


I have to say something or I'm gonna bust wide open..... ( no jokes please). Sly, I've seen people here say some pretty ugly things about you and you always took them in stride- it always hurt me for you. Tell me, before you did lose weight, did it not hurt you to the core?




sar·casm ( P ) Pronunciation Key (särkzm)
n.
A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
The use of sarcasm. See Synonyms at wit1.

[ECILAM]

Originally posted by Honeygirl

Bugger off Fred - get in line! :D

Ah, Honey. You're a sweetheart. But... I thought I was fat, never get any, and have a pitiful life! :huh:

It's been a very confusing day... :sagrin:

[SilverSurfer]

I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waste
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung, wanna pull up tough
'Cause you notice that butt was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh baby, I wanna get wit'cha
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But with that butt you got makes
Ooh, Rump-o'-smooth-skin
You say you wanna get in my Benz?
Well, use me, use me
'Cause you ain't that average groupy
I've seen them dancin'
The hell with romancin'
She's wet, wet,
Got it goin' like a turbo 'Vette
I'm tired of magazines
Sayin' flat butts are the thing
Take the average black man and ask him that
She gotta pack much back
So, fellas! (Yeah!) Fellas! (Yeah!)
Has your girlfriend got the butt? (Hell yeah!)
Tell 'em to shake it! (Shake it!) Shake it! (Shake it!)
Shake that healthy butt!
Baby got back!


I like 'em round, and big
And when I'm throwin' a gig
I just can't help myself, I'm actin' like an animal
Now here's my scandal
I wanna get you home
And ugh, double-up, ugh, ugh
I ain't talkin' bout Playboy
'Cause silicone parts are made for toys
I want 'em real thick and juicy
So find that juicy double
I know I'm in trouble
Beggin' for a piece of that bubble
So I'm lookin' at rock videos
Watchin' these bimbos walkin' like hoes
You can have them bimbos
I'll keep my women like Flo Jo
A word to the thick soul sistas, I wanna get with ya
I won't cuss or hit ya
But I gotta be straight when I say I wanna *fuck*
Til the break of dawn
Baby got it goin' on
A lot of simps won't like this song
'Cause them punks like to hit it and quit it
And I'd rather stay and play
'Cause I'm long, and I'm strong
And I'm down to get the friction on
So, ladies! {Yeah!} Ladies! {Yeah}
If you wanna role in my Mercedes {Yeah!}
Then turn around! Stick it out!
Even white boys got to shout
Baby got back!

[meatpile]

Originally posted by ecilam


Just so there's no mistake, I HATE PC. It's not about touchy-feely self esteem issues; it's about being a logical person who treats people based on their deeds, words, and actions, not what they look like.

But in the case of a big fat person, their actions are that they eat too fucking much and have no self control.

If someone doesn't bathe, people will judge them for it. How is it different if you're a big fat ass sneaking a tray of Creme Horns in the office?

If what they look like is they were born ugly - fine. I agree. But there's this thinking that they can't help it.

BULLSHIT. Just look at Sly.

[Nytdreamer]

I wouldn't know what to think really... I am a pretty damn big guy after all, about 340, but i wear it well given muscle mass from weight-lifting, and height. I don't feel too much pity, a lot of people are there because they don't try to lose it, and that stomach stapling crap pisses me off, damn easy way out for people with money. Hell, i've probably gone down 15 - 20 lbs. in the last month just because i cut back and started getting out a little more... Damn pants keep trying to fall off :-\ I guess I just kinda look at it with various shades of indifference, most overweight folks could lose it if they really wanted to try, I am trying and doing so and i've been overweight all my life. I didn't feel sorry for myself when i was throwing caution to the wind and acting like a sloth, so i don't really feel sorry for others that do it now.

[plutosgirl]

Originally posted by DaveW





sar·casm ( P ) Pronunciation Key (särkzm)
n.
A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
The use of sarcasm. See Synonyms at wit1.

Are you saying I'm being sarcastic in asking him that question? It isn't true if you are.

[DaveW]

SLY WAS BEING SARCASTIC. you wouldnt know sarcasm or a joke if it bit you in the ass.

[plutosgirl]

Originally posted by DaveW
SLY WAS BEING SARCASTIC. you wouldnt know sarcasm or a joke if it bit you in the ass.
alrighty then

[Honeygirl]

Originally posted by ecilam


Ah, Honey. You're a sweetheart. But... I thought I was fat, never get any, and have a pitiful life! :huh:

It's been a very confusing day... :sagrin:
Lovey - from your description and picture - I think you're just fine :mushy: Pay no mind to those that slag you off lovey - that's what happens when people get stumped.

Time for that http://websmileys.bei.t-online.de/div24.gif smilie again I think! :D

[Honeygirl]

Originally posted by DaveW
SLY WAS BEING SARCASTIC. you wouldnt know sarcasm or a joke if it bit you in the ass. You're freaking kidding me? :shakehead

[magnus]

Originally posted by DaveW
Hey Ecilam, do you keep a bag of flour on you at all times?

:D

Originally posted by DaveW



pics please....especially if you want us to believe this

Hmmm...still nothing

[sadic1]

I haven't posted a picture of myself, so I'm not likely to post a picture of the wife. Maybe sometime in the cafe if I get ambitious enough to edit her face out of the picture. Until then, y'all are going to have to trust me on this or not. I just had a quickie in the guest room, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that she is still petite.

[voyergirl]

holy cow this is a good read...plu, i LOVED your post!

eclaim, you are a wonderful guy.

saydick, under that smart mouth of yours you are a good guy.

you have all seen my picture (i think). anyway i am not skinny nor have i EVER been. bear and sly you can poke fun all you want. sly, i commend you for your weight loss it is a personal victory that only means something if you did it for yourself and not for the benefit of what others think of you. i have and up until last week closely follow the atkins plan. as most of you know a recent illness has made me reconfigure my eating habits. i make no excuses for the size of my ass, i merely let y'all in on a bit of personal history. i have always been the size i am (well i mean bigger than the average even as a kid). i am in no way like the pitiful woman stuffing that shit into her gut. hell i don't even like sweets! believe it or not i could care less. i survived thus far being healthy as hell on mostly "healthy" foods. i am more active than EVERY friend i have, even the "skinny" ones. even now i have more stamina and strength than the so-called "healthy" people. i am only 5'2" and weigh 175' to 180' at all times and have been this size since i graduated high school. fat as i have been called on here? not in my opinion, but to a few of you yes i guess i am fat. i am one of those freaky people that just stay the same weight. i have been on this fucked up liquid diet for 4 days now and for 3 days prior it was total fasting. the "skinny nurses had to take my weight and had the nerve to tell me i "would loose weight" during my disease educed diet. guess what.......not a damn pound was shed only my strenght was lost :(. i don't really like meat much, but i am a firm believer in the need for protein. my body feels drained. i am anemic and was DAMN dehydrated and yet i remained the same size. i have to say the 'new' dietary crap i have to follow actually scares me. i am one who survives on apples, carrots, oats, letuce ect. (rabbit food if you will) and now they are telling me i cannot have those.

any one of you can dispute these fact, buts i do not exists to please you people so if you don't like the size of my ass, hips, thighs, what have you then don't fucking look! no sweat off my back to not please you.

as far as public opinion or attraction goes i have yet to have any trouble with men or women lol (yes, the occasional offer has been made. eeeekk). it is not the size of the package that attracts most people unless they themselves are shallow assholes.

i know this post is a bit confusing, but once again tbr has hit a vein or maybe an artery in this "thick chick".

[lj4three]

Originally posted by ecilam


"OH. MY. GOD. Becky, LOOK. AT. HER BUTT."?

full house episode 3 season 5. werd mothafucka.:cool:

[Stargazer]

Originally posted by voyergirl
holy cow this is a good read...plu, i LOVED your post!

eclaim, you are a wonderful guy.

saydick, under that smart mouth of yours you are a good guy.

...buts i do not exists to please you people so if you don't like the size of my ass, hips, thighs, what have you then don't fucking look! no sweat off my back to not please you.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[Savio]

It's funny...the time I was in Italy talking to people my age (20-26), the conversation always came up on how Americans are so unhealthy....but it's true. I was in Italy for a month and lost 15 pounds.

[QueenCityHillbilly]

Originally posted by lj4three
full house episode 3 season 5. werd mothafucka.:cool: :applause: :applause:

[QueenCityHillbilly]

Nyt and Voyeur made said some interesting things. I've lost 25 lbs in the past year, but I never thought I was fat. I had a fat belly, but never a fat ass.

[builder]

Originally posted by Savio
I was in Italy for a month and lost 15 pounds.

I lost 25lbs in Spain over 2 months.

[Savio]

Originally posted by builder


I lost 25lbs in Spain over 2 months.

That's b/c you probably never got any sleep. Who sleeps in Spain?



did you get a chance to go to Ibiza? That place is rockin 24/7!

[builder]

I was being school'd at the time so I didn't get to Ibiza....but I was walking a right bit funny after 2 days in Barcelona. :D

[Savio]

Originally posted by builder
I was being school'd at the time so I didn't get to Ibiza....but I was walking a right bit funny after 2 days in Barcelona. :D

the alcohol is cheaper than water :D

[lj4three]

Originally posted by Savio


I was in Italy for a month and lost 15 pounds.


Originally posted by builder


I lost 25lbs in Spain over 2 months.

I died in Frankfurt. beat that bitches.:cool:

[DaveW]

Originally posted by lj4three





I died in Frankfurt. beat that bitches.



Is that why you smell like shit all the time?

[WilliamJ]

Originally posted by lj4three
I died in Frankfurt. beat that bitches.:cool: so that's your problem, you are the undead.

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by lj4three





I died in Frankfurt. beat that bitches.:cool:

Not possible - your hair stops growing after you're dead and we've all seen that rug you call an eyebrow.

[lj4three]

Originally posted by vpkozel


Not possible - your hair stops growing after you're dead and we've all seen that rug you call an eyebrow.

residual dead protein. where's your biology degree now? huh bitch? :cool:

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by lj4three


residual dead protein. where's your biology degree now? huh bitch? :cool:

you must hhave to suck a lot of dick to get that much protein.

[lj4three]

Originally posted by vpkozel


you must hhave to have your dick sucked a lot of dick to get that much protein.

i agree.

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by lj4three

you must hhave to have your dick sucked a lot of dick to get that much protein.

i agree.

that made no sense. you can't even edit right bitch :D

[lj4three]

Originally posted by vpkozel


that made no sense. you can't even edit right bitch :D


fuck you, at least i knew that you can grow hair after you die. uninformed corporate fuck. :)

[vpkozel]

am not :p

[lj4three]

i dont feel comfortable exchanging posts with you. especially after that fucking smiley you used. i'm taking my ball and going home. bitch.

[slydevl]

Anyone see 20/20 last night. They had a whole segment about fat people. They said only about 2% of overweight people are like that because of genetics or hormone problems.

[chuckrichey]

i just ate a half gallon of ice cream reading this thread,i blame all of you for me being fat!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

[Freakshow]

I had a fat piece of shit girl working for me. I fired her. Not because she's fat! She was SO lazy.

She was always on a diet, always skipped lunch, etc...

Problem is, she snacked constantly. And it was shit. Peanuts, Ruffles, Cookies...

I do NOT feel sorry for her.

[sds70]

Originally posted by builder
SDS?


Noooooooooooooo, I only have 1 ID on here builder :) . . . .