Someone explain this

[PantherPaul]

Russ Ortiz leaves after pitching 5 full innings, is leading yet still gets a no desicion. Is it because the lead was lost (I didn't watch the game) Braves Pirates Boxscore (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=230608115)

[Yuck]

I think the winning pitcher is the pitcher on record when the winning run is scored. But I'm not sure, I could be way off base.

Get it - way off base? haw haw, geez....

[RSgal]

You're both right. If the lead is lost after a pitcher leaves the game, he is not eligible for the W. And as Mr. Yuck said, the pitcher on record at the time the go ahead run scores is the one who will get the W.

[nsbaseball5]

yea pirates tied it up den javy went yard

[two-six]

Originally posted by RSgal
You're both right. If the lead is lost after a pitcher leaves the game, he is not eligible for the W. And as Mr. Yuck said, the pitcher on record at the time the go ahead run scores is the one who will get the W.

does anyone else get tingly to read this sort of knowledge from a lady?:mushy:

[vpkozel]

Originally posted by CharPirates26


does anyone else get tingly to read this sort of knowledge from a lady?:mushy:

Oh quit sucking up. :D

[PantherPaul]

The way it looks to me Ortiz left after pitching 5 innings up 6-4. UNLESS the Braves scored the winning runs in the bottom of the fifth. Didn't look that close. I was just going by the fact that when Ortiz left he was up 6-4 and left empty handed.

[smashmouth5]

Game was tied 4-4 when Ortiz left the game.

[PantherPaul]

Pittsburgh 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 1 0 5 9 1

Atlanta 0 0 0 0 2 4 0 0 X 6 12 0


WP: T. Hodges (3-0) S: J. Smoltz (24)
LP: J. Fogg (2-3)





Scoring Summary
Top 4th: Pittsburgh
-A. Ramirez doubled to right center, B. Giles scored
-R. Sanders singled to left, A. Ramirez scored, R. Sanders to second advancing on throw

Bot 5th: Atlanta
-J. Lopez homered to center
-R. Furcal homered to right

Top 6th: Pittsburgh
-R. Simon doubled to right, B. Giles scored, A. Ramirez to third
-A. Nunez grounded into fielder's choice, A. Ramirez scored, R. Simon to third, J. Wilson out at second

Bot 6th: Atlanta
-A. Jones homered to left center, G. Sheffield scored
-J. Lopez homered to left, R. Fick scored

Top 8th: Pittsburgh
-A. Nunez singled to left center, R. Sanders scored, J. Wilson to third

Pittsburgh
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
K. Lofton cf 4 0 0 0 1 0 3 .306
J. Kendall c 5 0 0 0 0 1 1 .276
B. Giles lf 2 2 2 0 3 0 0 .302
A. Ramirez 3b 5 2 2 1 0 1 4 .300
R. Simon 1b 5 0 2 1 0 1 1 .285
J. Reboulet pr 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .242
R. Sanders rf 5 1 2 1 0 1 4 .261
J. Wilson ss 1 0 0 0 3 0 0 .248
A. Nunez 2b 4 0 1 2 0 0 3 .229
J. Fogg p 3 0 0 0 0 1 2 .154
J. Tavarez p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
J. Beimel p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
K. Young ph 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .206
C. Wilson ph 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .232
S. Torres p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
S. Sauerbeck p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
B. Boehringer p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Totals 34 5 9 5 8 5 18

Batting
2B - A Ramirez (15, R Ortiz); R Simon (11, R Ortiz); R Sanders (8, R Hernandez).

RBI - A Ramirez (27), R Sanders (25), R Simon (37), A Nunez 2 (10).

2-out RBI - R Sanders.

Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - J Fogg 1, R Sanders 1, A Nunez 1.

GIDP - A Ramirez.

Team LOB - 10.
Base Running
SB - K Lofton (12, 2nd base off R Ortiz/J Lopez).
Fielding
E - J Wilson (6, bobble).

DP - 1 (J Wilson-A Nunez-R Simon).


Atlanta
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
R. Furcal ss 5 1 2 1 0 1 4 .322
M. Giles 2b 4 0 0 0 1 1 2 .316
G. Sheffield rf 4 1 1 0 0 0 4 .357
C. Jones lf 3 0 1 0 1 0 0 .307
A. Jones cf 4 1 2 2 0 0 4 .300
R. Fick 1b 3 1 1 0 0 0 1 .297
J. Franco ph 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 .274
J. Lopez c 3 2 2 3 0 0 0 .314
H. Blanco c 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 .227
V. Castilla 3b 4 0 0 0 0 0 1 .275
R. Ortiz p 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 .242
T. Hodges p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
R. Hernandez p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
K. Gryboski p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
R. King p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
M. Franco ph 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .309
M. DeRosa ph 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 .250
J. Smoltz p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Totals 35 6 12 6 2 3 18

Batting
2B - R Ortiz (2, J Fogg); A Jones (10, J Fogg).

3B - R Furcal (8, J Fogg).

HR - J Lopez 2 (18, 5th inning off J Fogg 0 on, 0 Out, 6th inning off J Fogg 1 on, 1 Out), R Furcal (9, 5th inning off J Fogg 0 on, 2 Out), A Jones (16, 6th inning off J Fogg 1 on, 1 Out).

S - T Hodges.

RBI - J Lopez 3 (33), R Furcal (24), A Jones 2 (49).

2-out RBI - R Furcal.

Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - G Sheffield 2, A Jones 1, R Fick 1, R Furcal 1, J Franco 1.

GIDP - M Giles.

Team LOB - 9.
Fielding
DP - 2 (R Ortiz-R Furcal-R Fick, R Furcal).


Pittsburgh
IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA
J. Fogg (L, 2-3) 5.1 9 6 6 1 1 4 3.92
J. Tavarez 1.1 1 0 0 0 0 0 5.33
J. Beimel 0.1 0 0 0 0 1 0 2.96
S. Torres 0.1 1 0 0 0 0 0 4.25
S. Sauerbeck 0.1 1 0 0 0 1 0 3.65
B. Boehringer 0.1 0 0 0 1 0 0 9.00

Atlanta
IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA
R. Ortiz 5.0 5 4 4 4 2 0 4.02
T. Hodges (W, 3-0) 2.0 1 0 0 1 2 0 1.65
R. Hernandez 0.1 2 1 1 1 0 0 4.97
K. Gryboski 0.0 0 0 0 1 0 0 5.40
R. King 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2.88
J. Smoltz (S, 24) 1.0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0.79

[smashmouth5]

Not sure of the score, but I swear the game was tied when Ortiz left.

[smashmouth5]

My mistake. Ortiz was getting beat 4-2 when he left the game.AJC boxscore (http://www.ajc.com/braves/content/sports/braves/box/latestbox.html)