All Star Selections

[The Brain]

American League:
Starters
Jorge Posada New York C
Carlos Delgado Toronto 1B
Alfonso Soriano New York 2B
Troy Glaus Anaheim 3B
Alex Rodriguez Texas SS
Ichiro Suzuki Seattle OF
Hideki Matsui New York OF
Manny Ramirez Boston OF
Edgar Martinez Seattle DH

Reserves
Garret Anderson Anaheim OF
Hank Blalock Texas 3B
Bret Boone Seattle 2B
Carl Everett Chicago OF
Nomar Garciaparra Boston SS
Ramon Hernandez Oakland C
Melvin Mora Baltimore OF
Mike Sweeney Kansas City 1B
Vernon Wells Toronto OF
Dmitri Young Detroit OF

Pitchers
Lance Carter Tampa Bay RP
Brendan Donnelly Anaheim RP
Keith Foulke Oakland RP
Eddie Guardado Minnesota RP
Roy Halladay Toronto SP
Shigetoshi Hasegawa Seattle RP
Esteban Loaiza Chicago SP
Mike MacDougal Kansas City RP
Jamie Moyer Seattle SP
Mark Mulder Oakland SP
C.C. Sabathia Cleveland SP
Barry Zito Oakland SP

National League:
Starters
Javy Lopez Atlanta C
Todd Helton Colorado 1B
Marcus Giles Atlanta 2B
Scott Rolen St. Louis 3B
Edgar Renteria St. Louis SS
Barry Bonds San Francisco OF
Albert Pujols St. Louis OF
Gary Sheffield Atlanta OF

Reserves
Aaron Boone Cincinnati 3B
Jim Edmonds St. Louis OF
Rafael Furcal Atlanta SS
Luis Gonzalez Arizona OF
Andruw Jones Atlanta OF
Paul Lo Duca Los Angeles C
Mike Lowell Florida 3B
Richie Sexson Milwaukee 1B
Jose Vidro Montreal 2B
Rondell White San Diego OF
Preston Wilson Colorado OF

Pitchers
Armando Benitez New York RP
Kevin Brown Los Angeles SP
Shawn Chacon * Colorado SP
Eric Gagne Los Angeles RP
Russ Ortiz Atlanta SP
Mark Prior Chicago SP
Jason Schmidt San Francisco SP
John Smoltz Atlanta RP
Billy Wagner Houston RP
Mike Williams Pittsburgh RP
Woody Williams St. Louis SP
Randy Wolf Philadelphia SP
Kerry Wood Chicago SP

* on disabled list.

[PantherPaul]

Originally posted by The Brain
American League:
Starters
Jorge Posada New York C
Carlos Delgado Toronto 1B
Alfonso Soriano New York 2B
Troy Glaus Anaheim 3B
Alex Rodriguez Texas SS
Ichiro Suzuki Seattle OF
Hideki Matsui New York OF How do you say BULLSHIT in Japanese
Manny Ramirez Boston OF
Edgar Martinez Seattle DH

Reserves
Garret Anderson Anaheim OF
Hank Blalock Texas 3B
Bret Boone Seattle 2B
Carl Everett Chicago OF
Nomar Garciaparra Boston SS
Ramon Hernandez Oakland C
Melvin Mora Baltimore OF
Mike Sweeney Kansas City 1B
Vernon Wells Toronto OF
Dmitri Young Detroit OF

Pitchers
Lance Carter Tampa Bay RP
Brendan Donnelly Anaheim RP
Keith Foulke Oakland RP
Eddie Guardado Minnesota RP
Roy Halladay Toronto SP
Shigetoshi Hasegawa Seattle RP
Esteban Loaiza Chicago SP
Mike MacDougal Kansas City RP
Jamie Moyer Seattle SP
Mark Mulder Oakland SP
C.C. Sabathia Cleveland SP
Barry Zito Oakland SP

National League:
Starters
Javy Lopez Atlanta C
Todd Helton Colorado 1B
Marcus Giles Atlanta 2B
Scott Rolen St. Louis 3B Look at Lowells numbers and tell me this is fair
Edgar Renteria St. Louis SS
Barry Bonds San Francisco OF
Albert Pujols St. Louis OF
Gary Sheffield Atlanta OF

Reserves
Aaron Boone Cincinnati 3B
Jim Edmonds St. Louis OF
Rafael Furcal Atlanta SS
Luis Gonzalez Arizona OF
Andruw Jones Atlanta OF
Paul Lo Duca Los Angeles C This is a joke, where is Lieberthal!
Mike Lowell Florida 3B
Richie Sexson Milwaukee 1B
Jose Vidro Montreal 2B
Rondell White San Diego OF He has missed too many games but the Padres have to have one representative
Preston Wilson Colorado OF

Pitchers
Armando Benitez New York RP
Kevin Brown Los Angeles SP
Shawn Chacon * Colorado SP
Eric Gagne Los Angeles RP
Russ Ortiz Atlanta SP
Mark Prior Chicago SP
Jason Schmidt San Francisco SP
John Smoltz Atlanta RP
Billy Wagner Houston RP
Mike Williams Pittsburgh RP Giles should be Pirates rep, (by bumping Andruw Jones)and give this spot to Dontrell Willis
Woody Williams St. Louis SP
Randy Wolf Philadelphia SP
Kerry Wood Chicago SP

* on disabled list.

Arguements can be made against Prior and more especially Woods Where the hell is Dontrell Willis of the Marlins

[Chisox17]

you can still vote for the last slot for each league's team, everyone go vote for frank thomas, now!!!

[smashmouth5]

Lowell not being a starter is a joke.

[PantherPaul]

Lowell I think is leading NL in homers and he backs up Rolen? As much as I want the fans to have a say so this is a glaring travesty. That and Rolen can snap a leg ANYTIME soon (coming from a disgruntled Phillie fan that will never forget the screw job he put on the Phillies)

[metro]

my exteammate Jose Guillen not getting on is a JOKE.

358 AVG
17 HR

[Charlotte2002]

Originally posted by The Brain
American League:
Starters
Jorge Posada New York C AVG.254 HR 17 RBI 50
Carlos Delgado Toronto 1B AVG.304 HR 28 RBI 92
Alfonso Soriano New York 2B AVG.300 HR 22 RBI 51
Troy Glaus Anaheim 3B AVG.260 HR 15 RBI 46
Alex Rodriguez Texas SS AVG.293 HR 21 RBI 54
Ichiro Suzuki Seattle OF AVG.349 HR 7 RBI 27
Hideki Matsui New York OF AVG.311 HR 9 RBI 64
Manny Ramirez Boston OF AVG.325 HR 20 RBI 66
Edgar Martinez Seattle DH AVG.305 HR 18 RBI 60

Reserves
Garret Anderson Anaheim OF AVG.308 HR 19 RBI 72
Hank Blalock Texas 3B AVG.328 HR 14 RBI 48
Bret Boone Seattle 2B AVG.310 HR 22 RBI 70
Carl Everett Chicago OF AVG.272 HR 18 RBI 52
Nomar Garciaparra Boston SS AVG.330 HR 13 RBI 57
Ramon Hernandez Oakland C AVG.270 HR 11 RBI 37
Melvin Mora Baltimore OF AVG.361 HR 13 RBI 44
Mike Sweeney Kansas City 1B AVG.321 HR 12 RBI 50
Vernon Wells Toronto OF AVG.302 HR 21 RBI 80
Dmitri Young Detroit OF AVG.293 HR 17 RBI 47

Pitchers
Lance Carter Tampa Bay RP W-L 5-3 ERA 4.17 SV 14
Brendan Donnelly Anaheim RP W-L 0-0 ERA 0.41 HLD 19
Keith Foulke Oakland RP W-L 6-1 ERA 2.85 SV 22
Eddie Guardado Minnesota RP W-L 1-4 ERA 3.82 SV 20
Roy Halladay Toronto SP W-L 12-2 ERA 3.64 SO 103
Shigetoshi Hasegawa Seattle RP W-L 1-0 ERA 0.81 HLD 12
Esteban Loaiza Chicago SP W-L 11-4 ERA 2.28 SO 99
Mike MacDougal Kansas City RP W-L 3-3 ERA 2.72 SV 24
Jamie Moyer Seattle SP W-L 11-5 ERA 2.99 BAA .228
Mark Mulder Oakland SP W-L 11-6 ERA 3.10 CG 6
C.C. Sabathia Cleveland SP W-L 8-3 ERA 3.27 BAA .248
Barry Zito Oakland SP W-L 8-5 ERA 3.12 BAA .216

National League:
Starters
Javy Lopez Atlanta C AVG.307 HR 23 RBI 51
Todd Helton Colorado 1B AVG.338 HR 15 RBI 69
Marcus Giles Atlanta 2B AVG.282 HR 8 RBI 36
Scott Rolen St. Louis 3B AVG.285 HR 16 RBI 57
Edgar Renteria St. Louis SS AVG.328 HR 8 RBI 59
Barry Bonds San Francisco OF AVG.293 HR 17 RBI 47
Albert Pujols St. Louis OF AVG.374 HR 26 RBI 80
Gary Sheffield Atlanta OF AVG.327 HR 22 RBI 68

Reserves
Aaron Boone Cincinnati 3B AVG.267 HR 15 RBI 51
Jim Edmonds St. Louis OF AVG.304 HR 27 RBI 64
Rafael Furcal Atlanta SS AVG.294 HR 11 RBI 33
Luis Gonzalez Arizona OF AVG.317 HR 17 RBI 61
Andruw Jones Atlanta OF AVG.289 HR 22 RBI 60
Paul Lo Duca Los Angeles C AVG.305 HR 5 RBI 30
Mike Lowell Florida 3B AVG.284 HR 26 RBI 73
Richie Sexson Milwaukee 1B AVG.262 HR 23 RBI 62
Jose Vidro Montreal 2B AVG.327 HR 10 RBI 42
Rondell White San Diego OF AVG.284 HR 16 RBI 48
Preston Wilson Colorado OF AVG.298 HR 19 RBI 76

Pitchers
Armando Benitez New York RP W-L 2-3 ERA 3.11 SV 21
Kevin Brown Los Angeles SP W-L 10-4 ERA 2.30 SO 103
Shawn Chacon * Colorado SP W-L 11-4 ERA 4.27 (In Colo.)
Eric Gagne Los Angeles RP W-L 1-3 ERA 2.09 SV 30
Russ Ortiz Atlanta SP W-L 11-4 ERA 3.50 BAA .217
Mark Prior Chicago SP W-L 8-4 ERA 2.69 SO 145
Jason Schmidt San Francisco SP W-L 8-4 ERA 2.30 BAA .197
John Smoltz Atlanta RP W-L 0-1 ERA 0.99 SV 32
Billy Wagner Houston RP W-L 1-3 ERA 2.47 SV 22
Mike Williams Pittsburgh RP W-L 0-3 ERA 6.29 SV 24
Woody Williams St. Louis SP W-L 11-3 ERA 3.06 WHIP 1.10
Randy Wolf Philadelphia SP W-L 9-4 ERA 3.40 SO 102
Kerry Wood Chicago SP W-L 8-6 ERA 3.36 SO 144

* on disabled list.

[uncc86]

Just proves 2 things..........1) Fans need less input to the vote (see Matsui's & Rolen's selection).

2) Guaranteeing each team a spot is absurd. (A. Benitez over Willis ??? But the problem is, there is no one else worth thinking about on the worst team in baseball.) Teams as bad as the Mets and the Tigers should be represented by their trainers and/or locker room management staff....not actual players.


On side notes...........I realize that "Chicks dig the long ball" but I'd rather see Sean Casey than Aaron Boone as a rep from my Reds....but Guillen was the MOST deserving candidate.

G HR RBI OBP SLG AVG
S Casey 81 9 42 .351 .429 .299
A Boone 85 15 51 .331 .469 .267
J Guillen 71 17 44 .404 .650 .350


Also, there seem to be more closers on both pitching staffs than I remember from previous games.

[Dukesuckgounc]

Originally posted by PantherPaul


Arguements can be made against Prior and more especially Woods Where the hell is Dontrell Willis of the Marlins

How can you even try to make a case that Andruw Jones Shoued not have make it AVG.289 22Hr 60Rbi is a very good number If you want Lieberthal then Wolf wouid have not to make it + each team must have 1 player make the all start team

[Charlotte2002]

I've watched Matsui play everyday and I'll tell you he deserves to make this team, but probably not as a starter. He plays very well in the field, and is even playing CF for Bernie Williams and doing an outstanding job. It took him some time to adjust, but now he is playing unbelievable. If there is a runner in scoring position he will get him in, hence the high RBI amount with not so many home runs.

The fact that the game actual means something now should have done away with each team getting a representative and with the fan voting. Home field advantage is an extremely important thing in the World Series lately and now the NL might be depending on Benitez in the bottom of the 9th to hold the AL sluggers...

[Xcaliber]

Varitek should be starting.

[two-six]

arguments i see.

NL
lowell over rolen
vidro over giles (this is from a braves fan, vidro gets NO props)

AL
mora over matsui (matsui was a CF in japan, so why would he need time to adjust)
lance carter from the d-rays? (huff? baldelli?)
blalock over glaus
no jose guillen? (wtf?)
no dontrell willis? (again, wtf?)
wheres bill mueller? (.330, .402, .559)

metro, where did you play with guillen?

[Dukesuckgounc]

Originally posted by CharPirates26
arguments i see.

NL
lowell over rolen
vidro over giles (this is from a braves fan, vidro gets NO props)

AL
mora over matsui (matsui was a CF in japan, so why would he need time to adjust)
lance carter from the d-rays? (huff? baldelli?)
blalock over glaus
no jose guillen? (wtf?)
no dontrell willis? (again, wtf?)
wheres bill mueller? (.330, .402, .559)

metro, where did you play with guillen?


Wall Giles gut i bucase he had good May and a good Jun

[PantherPaul]

Originally posted by Dukeyhaterunc1baby


How can you even try to make a case that Andruw Jones Shoued not have make it AVG.289 22Hr 60Rbi is a very good number If you want Lieberthal then Wolf wouid have not to make it + each team must have 1 player make the all start team

Dukie read my post. I am not saying a word about Wolf. Lieberthal is batting around .350 and should go in place of La Duca. Omitting Willis was a travesty for a sport that is trying to get fans interest. My basic point is Sheffield is the better of the 2 Atlanta OF, this year. The Pirates have to have a participants why not put Giles in there instead of Jones and then Willis in there instead of Williams (Pitt reliever)

[Dukesuckgounc]

Did you see sow what Willis had to say today http://boards.espn.go.com/cgi/mlb/request.dll?MESSAGE&room=mlb_atl&id=781902&move=firstThread

[PantherPaul]

Personally I am not opposed to enlarging the rosters to 3 at each position. Call it A,B,C players. A players play 1-3 innings, and so on. Everyone gets at least one at bat. That makes 27 position players per team. Then a 13 man pitching staff. Either that or have alternate All-Star players to ammend the rosters

[PantherPaul]

Originally posted by Dukeyhaterunc1baby
Did you see sow what Willis had to say today http://boards.espn.go.com/cgi/mlb/request.dll?MESSAGE&room=mlb_atl&id=781902&move=firstThread

I think you mean what Dusty Baker said about the heat not getting to the blacks and Latinos. You think had a white guy said that he might have caught some grief? I respect the hell out of Baker but he is far from an authority. Just proves ignorance knows no skin color

[Dukesuckgounc]

BTW on anther story Corey Patterson mit be out for the season http://msn.espn.go.com/mlb/news/2003/0707/1577684.html

[PantherPaul]

You watch they will probably put Sosa in his place. His current numbers don't warrent a All Star place but being as the All-Star game is in Chicago ...................

[Dukesuckgounc]

Originally posted by PantherPaul
You watch they will probably put Sosa in his place. His current numbers don't warrent a All Star place but being as the All-Star game is in Chicago ...................

No they wont Patterson was not vote in for the all start game

[PantherPaul]

Originally posted by Dukeyhaterunc1baby


No they wont Patterson was not vote in for the all start game

That would help :rolleyes: my bad

[Dukesuckgounc]

;)

[solarte1969]

that Lowell should start over Rolen, and that Magglio Ordonez & Frank Thomas being left off as reserves sucks...Loaiza gets in and Everett does to, but Everett should wear a Rangers uni for the game--he put up all his numbers with Texas. I'm glad he's in a Sox uni now, but Ordonez and Thomas are having decent enough years to have garnered a little home town help...maybe I'm biased being a White Sox fan....I'm not afraid to admit that.....

[metro]

charpirates26 wrote:
metro, where did you play with guillen?

I played 1995 and 96 with him in Erie and Lynchburg (where he was Carolina League MVP). I actually got the first W in Erie's new ballpark in 95 due to a Jose Guillen 10th inning bomb off the civic center in left. I nor anyone else liked him, but he could play, and he has the best arm on planet earth......period.