NC Ihigh coaches and media poll (1-27-04)

[bigdan]

The iHigh Coaches & Media state high school girls basketball poll for the week of January 27th. The poll is voted upon by a statewide panel of coaches and sports writers. This is the fourth poll of the season. Records are through Monday night's games. The poll is the top ten in each class and top four honorable mention vote getters including ties.

Please send missing or incorrect records to michelle@iHigh.com

4A School Pts LW
1. Seventy First (14-1) 187 1
2. Northern Nash (15-0) 173 3
3. Garinger (13-1) 151 4
4. McDowell (17-3) 124 2
5. South Mecklenburg (15-2) 109 5
6. SE Raleigh (16-3) 87 6
7. West Charlotte (15-2) 68 7
8. Broughton (13-1) 52 8
9. A.C. Reynolds (16-3) 43 HM
10t. East Forsyth (14-4) 30 9
10t. Western Harnett (15-2) 30 10
Honorable Mention: Northern Durham (13-2), South View (15-3), Independence (13-2), Ashley (13-3).


3A School Pts LW
1. Asheville (15-1) 246 1
2. High Point Central (12-1) 222 2
3. Newton Foard (18-0) 200 3
4. Goldsboro (17-1) 182 4
5. Carver (17-1) 155 5
6. Hillside (12-2) 125 6
7. Trinity (16-2) 93 7
8. East Chapel Hill (12-2) 61 HM
9. Rockingham Co (15-3) 36 9
10. West Rowan 12-1) 31 10
Honorable Mention: Parkwood (12-1), St Stephens (15-3), Hunter Huss (13-4), North Iredell (14-3), Beddingfield (14-4), East Rowan (14-4).


2A School Pts LW
1. Salisbury (17-0) 230 1
2. West Caldwell (16-1) 177 3
3. North Stanly (16-2) 158 4
4. Ledford (18-1) 141 5
5. Bunn (13-1) 129 6
6. North Lenoir (16-2) 104 2
7. Northeastern (15-1) 103 10
8. Red Springs (13-3) 54 9
9. Southern Vance (13-1) 50 7
10. Pender (15-2) 33 HM
Honorable Mention: Owen (14-4), Bandys (11-5), Whiteville (12-2), SW Edgecombe (12-6), West Stanly (13-5).


1A School Pts LW
1. Thomasville (15-1) 237 1
2. Farmville (16-1) 199 2
3. East Surry (16-1) 165 3
4. Rosman (14-1) 159 4
5. Weldon (14-1) 138 5
6. North Johnston (13-3) 97 7
7. Cherryville (15-3) 85 8
8. Rosewood (11-2) 66 6
9. Southside (11-1) 43 9
10. Robbinsville (13-3) 26 10
Honorable Mention: Camden County (13-3), River Mill (17-2), Franklinton (13-4), North Brunswick (8-3), Plymouth (9-4).

[reynoldsrocks23]

The iHigh Coaches & Media state high school girls basketball poll for the week of January 27th. The poll is voted upon by a statewide panel of coaches and sports writers. This is the fourth poll of the season. Records are through Monday night's games. The poll is the top ten in each class and top four honorable mention vote getters including ties.

Please send missing or incorrect records to michelle@iHigh.com

4A School Pts LW
1. Seventy First (14-1) 187 1
2. Northern Nash (15-0) 173 3
3. Garinger (13-1) 151 4
4. McDowell (17-3) 124 2
5. South Mecklenburg (15-2) 109 5
6. SE Raleigh (16-3) 87 6
7. West Charlotte (15-2) 68 7
8. Broughton (13-1) 52 8
9. A.C. Reynolds (16-3) 43 HM
10t. East Forsyth (14-4) 30 9
10t. Western Harnett (15-2) 30 10
Honorable Mention: Northern Durham (13-2), South View (15-3), Independence (13-2), Ashley (13-3).

YEAH!! :applause: our girls FINALLY made the rankings! I know the rankings don't mean anything since you have to win it on the floor, but it's good to see them get some recognition for the good year they are having so far. Just hope they don't let it go to their heads. Freedom might have something for them on Friday if they aren't careful! Should be a great game, and a good test to see if they are still focused! :thumbup:

[CFBall]

YEAH!! :applause: our girls FINALLY made the rankings! I know the rankings don't mean anything since you have to win it on the floor, but it's good to see them get some recognition for the good year they are having so far. Just hope they don't let it go to their heads. Freedom might have something for them on Friday if they aren't careful! Should be a great game, and a good test to see if they are still focused! :thumbup:

applause back at you for your reports, support and true enthusiuam for the sport(not to mention your school)! Great post, keep'em coming and good luck the rest of the year to you and yours!

:boune:

[Tommy_Perkins]

How bout them Lady Eagles. Go Northeastern.

[tonync55]

I think the latest state rankings show a lot of respect for the McDowell Lady Titans basketball program. Although they were soundly defeated by the LADY ROCKETS they are still ranked well above them in the poll. I know that has to smart if you are a Reynolds fan but they don't just look at 1 game when they rank a team. I guess they look at how bad McDowell beat Freedom on their home turf as compared to how close the Freedom-Reynolds game was at Freedom. Also I believe the lady rockets have more tallent and experence to work with than the young lady titans especally on the posts. But coach silvers has a way of being succesfull with a team with any amount of tallent he has to work with. Does any one know what games will be played tonight,Wendsday?

[nw4a_rules]

I think the latest state rankings show a lot of respect for the McDowell Lady Titans basketball program. Although they were soundly defeated by the LADY ROCKETS they are still ranked well above them in the poll. I know that has to smart if you are a Reynolds fan but they don't just look at 1 game when they rank a team. I guess they look at how bad McDowell beat Freedom on their home turf as compared to how close the Freedom-Reynolds game was at Freedom. Also I believe the lady rockets have more tallent and experence to work with than the young lady titans especally on the posts. But coach silvers has a way of being succesfull with a team with any amount of tallent he has to work with. Does any one know what games will be played tonight,Wendsday?


nice thoughts... but i really don't think that most voters have seen either team play.... i don't think they know who has more talent... it is just a matter of respect for the program and the coach... consistency year in and year out for coach silvers... most of the voters really couldn't have seen either team perform this year... i wonder if they knew that the other team that beat mcdowell was a 2a team, and that reynolds beat that 2a team??? not saying that mcdowell doesn't deserve their rank, but part of their positioning has to do with their program and name... but don't all rankings take that into account... even on the college level... really anywhere that head to head competition is unavailable...

honestly, i wonder how we (nw4a) compares to the other teams ranked?? i mean, should freedom be up there too?? they haven't consistently got the job done this season, but i would put them up against anybody in the state with confidence that they could compete, and compete well... when they play together, they are so tough...

[reynoldsrocks23]

nice thoughts... but i really don't think that most voters have seen either team play.... i don't think they know who has more talent... it is just a matter of respect for the program and the coach... consistency year in and year out for coach silvers... most of the voters really couldn't have seen either team perform this year... i wonder if they knew that the other team that beat mcdowell was a 2a team, and that reynolds beat that 2a team??? not saying that mcdowell doesn't deserve their rank, but part of their positioning has to do with their program and name... but don't all rankings take that into account... even on the college level... really anywhere that head to head competition is unavailable...

honestly, i wonder how we (nw4a) compares to the other teams ranked?? i mean, should freedom be up there too?? they haven't consistently got the job done this season, but i would put them up against anybody in the state with confidence that they could compete, and compete well... when they play together, they are so tough...

I Agree with ya'll about McDowell being ranking on their program and name, and to be honest they are a very good team and I would still rank them up among the top 3 in the state. I would also have ACR up in higher like around 6th (our only losses were to #1 Asheville twice and #1 Thomasville), and Freedom should be in the top 10 as well. Didn't Freedom dominate #10 East Forsyth already this year? They are a very good team as well. Our conference is good and I think the playoff will prove that before it's all said and done!

[bigdan]

4A School Pts LW
1. Seventy First (14-1) 187 1
2. Northern Nash (15-0) 173 3
3. Garinger (13-1) 151 4
4. McDowell (17-3) 124 2
5. South Mecklenburg (15-2) 109 5
6. SE Raleigh (16-3) 87 6
7. West Charlotte (15-2) 68 7
8. Broughton (13-1) 52 8
9. A.C. Reynolds (16-3) 43 HM
10t. East Forsyth (14-4) 30 9
10t. Western Harnett (15-2) 30 10




This poll in the past has been biased toward the East Region, but it seems that this year there is fair respresentation of the West Region too.


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honestly, i wonder how we (nw4a) compares to the other teams ranked?? i mean, should freedom be up there too?? they haven't consistently got the job done this season, but i would put them up against anybody in the state with confidence that they could compete, and compete well... when they play together, they are so tough...



I think overall the NW4A matches up well with the other teams from the west that are in the poll. Freedom played East Forsyth at East Forsyth, and held Duke signee Chante Black to only 8 points. Freedom won by double digits. From what I have seen the last couple season, Chante is their only legit threat. A team effort will offset her production.

West Charlotte is all about playing streetball. Kisha Granberry and Ashley Rivens are nationally ranked players, Kisha in the top 15. McDowell played them in the sectional finals last year in Marion and held Granberry under 20 points, which she averages over 20 per game. The key to beating WC is not to get caught up in WC's style of play.

Garinger is a team that plays well in an overall weak conference. South Meck will be their toughest competition. If Garinger was ever to play the top three from the NW4A, they would get beat soundly.

And that leads to South Meck. If there is a team right now that scares me it would be South Meck. They have multiple 6 foot tall players who can play well. And they play more of a team concept than anybody else down in Charlotte. As a McDowell fan, the height of South Meck worries me, mainly because our two losses come from teams that have tall players.

[reynoldsrocks23]

Thanks for the rundown of the Charlotte teams Bigdan. I wasn't sure how good any of them were, but I had heard the South Meck team was the best of the bunch. I had also heard Garinger played in a weak conference, but I really didn't know if they were any good.

[bigdan]

Thanks for the rundown of the Charlotte teams Bigdan. I wasn't sure how good any of them were, but I had heard the South Meck team was the best of the bunch. I had also heard Garinger played in a weak conference, but I really didn't know if they were any good.

I was looking at the Charlotte paper website and in the SW4A, South Meck was still undefeated, 8-0, at the time. Garinger and Butler was tied for 2nd, with one loss in the conference. The 4th place team was 4-5. So, yeah the SW4A has a significant dropoff from 1-4.

[ladiesbballfan]

The iHigh Coaches & Media state high school girls basketball poll for the week of January 27th. The poll is voted upon by a statewide panel of coaches and sports writers. This is the fourth poll of the season. Records are through Monday night's games. The poll is the top ten in each class and top four honorable mention vote getters including ties.

Please send missing or incorrect records to michelle@iHigh.com

4A School Pts LW
1. Seventy First (14-1) 187 1
2. Northern Nash (15-0) 173 3
3. Garinger (13-1) 151 4
4. McDowell (17-3) 124 2
5. South Mecklenburg (15-2) 109 5
6. SE Raleigh (16-3) 87 6
7. West Charlotte (15-2) 68 7
8. Broughton (13-1) 52 8
9. A.C. Reynolds (16-3) 43 HM
10t. East Forsyth (14-4) 30 9
10t. Western Harnett (15-2) 30 10
Honorable Mention: Northern Durham (13-2), South View (15-3), Independence (13-2), Ashley (13-3).


3A School Pts LW
1. Asheville (15-1) 246 1
2. High Point Central (12-1) 222 2
3. Newton Foard (18-0) 200 3
4. Goldsboro (17-1) 182 4
5. Carver (17-1) 155 5
6. Hillside (12-2) 125 6
7. Trinity (16-2) 93 7
8. East Chapel Hill (12-2) 61 HM
9. Rockingham Co (15-3) 36 9
10. West Rowan 12-1) 31 10
Honorable Mention: Parkwood (12-1), St Stephens (15-3), Hunter Huss (13-4), North Iredell (14-3), Beddingfield (14-4), East Rowan (14-4).


2A School Pts LW
1. Salisbury (17-0) 230 1
2. West Caldwell (16-1) 177 3
3. North Stanly (16-2) 158 4
4. Ledford (18-1) 141 5
5. Bunn (13-1) 129 6
6. North Lenoir (16-2) 104 2
7. Northeastern (15-1) 103 10
8. Red Springs (13-3) 54 9
9. Southern Vance (13-1) 50 7
10. Pender (15-2) 33 HM
Honorable Mention: Owen (14-4), Bandys (11-5), Whiteville (12-2), SW Edgecombe (12-6), West Stanly (13-5).


1A School Pts LW
1. Thomasville (15-1) 237 1
2. Farmville (16-1) 199 2
3. East Surry (16-1) 165 3
4. Rosman (14-1) 159 4
5. Weldon (14-1) 138 5
6. North Johnston (13-3) 97 7
7. Cherryville (15-3) 85 8
8. Rosewood (11-2) 66 6
9. Southside (11-1) 43 9
10. Robbinsville (13-3) 26 10
Honorable Mention: Camden County (13-3), River Mill (17-2), Franklinton (13-4), North Brunswick (8-3), Plymouth (9-4).

bigdan, McDowell has only lost 2 games. Why don't you e-mail Michelle?

[bigdan]

bigdan, McDowell has only lost 2 games. Why don't you e-mail Michelle?

I saw that too. I e-mailed her last night, and it hasn't been changed as of 5 minutes ago.

[nw4a_rules]

I was looking at the Charlotte paper website and in the SW4A, South Meck was still undefeated, 8-0, at the time. Garinger and Butler was tied for 2nd, with one loss in the conference. The 4th place team was 4-5. So, yeah the SW4A has a significant dropoff from 1-4.

i wonder why garinger is ranked higher than south meck in the ihigh poll if they are in the same conference and undefeated?? i know a lot more goes into the ranking, but it sounds like south meck may be the biggest threat out of that conference, so i wonder why the poll doesn't reflect that??

any charlotte people have some insight for us??

[reynoldsrocks23]

i wonder why garinger is ranked higher than south meck in the ihigh poll if they are in the same conference and undefeated?? i know a lot more goes into the ranking, but it sounds like south meck may be the biggest threat out of that conference, so i wonder why the poll doesn't reflect that??

any charlotte people have some insight for us??

Could be the same situation at the ACR/McDowell situation we have in our conference. ACR leads the conference but McDowell is ranked higher, and I have to say McDowell should be. They have proven it year in year out!

[CFBall]

Could be the same situation at the ACR/McDowell situation we have in our conference. ACR leads the conference but McDowell is ranked higher, and I have to say McDowell should be. They have proven it year in year out!

agreed......its the probably same situation and i think sometimes alot of it has to do with the non-conference schedule/(plus who they lost to).

[tonync55]

What is the deal with McDowell being listed as 17-3. Did I miss one somewhere. I know owen beat us but didn't mitchell beat owen after we beat mitchell twice. No direspect mean't Reynolds fans but I'm going on record tonight and predicting an upset in farview Friday Freedom 70 Reynolds 66. How bout it Bigdan,I'm I going to far out on a limb here?

[reynoldsrocks23]

What is the deal with McDowell being listed as 17-3. Did I miss one somewhere. I know owen beat us but didn't mitchell beat owen after we beat mitchell twice. No direspect mean't Reynolds fans but I'm going on record tonight and predicting an upset in farview Friday Freedom 70 Reynolds 66. How bout it Bigdan,I'm I going to far out on a limb here?

The only disrespect you have shown Reynolds fans is saying we are in "Farview". First off, it's Fairview, and second A. C. Reynolds IS NOT IN FAIRVIEW!!! the address is ASHEVILLE! why do people keep saying FAIRVIEW? I know we are close to Fairview, but actually Fairview doesn't start until you cross the mountain about 2.5 miles past Reynolds. Now, I respect your prediction and it very well could come true. Freedom is a very good team and could beat us. I think ACR will be ready though, and should pull it out.

[ladiesbballfan]

What is the deal with McDowell being listed as 17-3. Did I miss one somewhere. I know owen beat us but didn't mitchell beat owen after we beat mitchell twice. No direspect mean't Reynolds fans but I'm going on record tonight and predicting an upset in farview Friday Freedom 70 Reynolds 66. How bout it Bigdan,I'm I going to far out on a limb here?

How in the Sam Hill did Mitchell beat Owen? The poll says they have 4 losses. I can understand Reynolds and I guess one was to Asheville which makes sense but:

How could that team lose to Enka and Mitchell? I am at a loss for words!

[bigdan]

No direspect mean't Reynolds fans but I'm going on record tonight and predicting an upset in farview Friday Freedom 70 Reynolds 66. How bout it Bigdan,I'm I going to far out on a limb here?

Tony, that is quite possible. Either way, I don't think the margin of victory will be high. Ten points at most.

[tonync55]

The only disrespect you have shown Reynolds fans is saying we are in "Farview". First off, it's Fairview, and second A. C. Reynolds IS NOT IN FAIRVIEW!!! the address is ASHEVILLE! why do people keep saying FAIRVIEW? I know we are close to Fairview, but actually Fairview doesn't start until you cross the mountain about 2.5 miles past Reynolds. Now, I respect your prediction and it very well could come true. Freedom is a very good team and could beat us. I think ACR will be ready though, and should pull it out.

Please excuse the mispelling,However you don't know how many times I have heard stan start to report the sports on t v 13 by saying quote "now lets go to Fairview to see how the Rockets fared tonight". Now if you lived away from Asheville and heard an Asheville Sports broadcaster say that what would you think. My prediction is just a gut feeling that Freedom has their backs against the wall and will come up there with something to prove but I know they have their work cut out because Reynolds is tough at home. I know we struggled to beat you all up there last year after having a little easier time at McDowell and at East Burke .But good luck anyway and we'll see you at McDowell at the end game.

[nw4a_rules]

How in the Sam Hill did Mitchell beat Owen? The poll says they have 4 losses. I can understand Reynolds and I guess one was to Asheville which makes sense but:

How could that team lose to Enka and Mitchell? I am at a loss for words!

those losses were early in the season, and frankly owen was inconsistent and not always playing to their potential... enka is a tough team that has a deliberate game plan... if you fall into that trap of playing their game, they will beat you... they have beaten several good teams the past few years with that plan... but, if you play your game and get the score up, you will likely beat them by 20... it is hard to defend their offense until you have seen it a while, and it catches folks off guard and lulls you to sleep...

the mitchell game, i don't know and their ihigh site shows that they beat mitchell, but i thought i remembered a loss... i imagine that game was a poor showing... there is a bit of a rivalry there, so perhaps emotions were high on the mitchell side and owen may have come out lazy... also, if you can get some foul trouble on owen, their bench is real short...

just some thoughts from watching owen and their coach several times over the past few seasons...

overall, they struggle with consistency, and that sometimes seems to be a coaching thing... i think they are more on track now and more focused, which should help them realize their potential... they did drop a game to north henderson the other night... from what i know about north henderson, owen should have beaten them as well...

[reynoldsrocks23]

those losses were early in the season, and frankly owen was inconsistent and not always playing to their potential... enka is a tough team that has a deliberate game plan... if you fall into that trap of playing their game, they will beat you... they have beaten several good teams the past few years with that plan... but, if you play your game and get the score up, you will likely beat them by 20... it is hard to defend their offense until you have seen it a while, and it catches folks off guard and lulls you to sleep...

the mitchell game, i don't know and their ihigh site shows that they beat mitchell, but i thought i remembered a loss... i imagine that game was a poor showing... there is a bit of a rivalry there, so perhaps emotions were high on the mitchell side and owen may have come out lazy... also, if you can get some foul trouble on owen, their bench is real short...

just some thoughts from watching owen and their coach several times over the past few seasons...

overall, they struggle with consistency, and that sometimes seems to be a coaching thing... i think they are more on track now and more focused, which should help them realize their potential... they did drop a game to north henderson the other night... from what i know about north henderson, owen should have beaten them as well...

Owen's 4 losses have come to, in order, AC Reynolds (by 7), Enka (by 4), Cumberland County, TN (Christmas Tournament, by 2), and North Henderson (by 15). Owen doesn't play Asheville in basketball or I am sure they would have another loss. Owen beat North Henderson by 4 the first time they played. Hope this helps a little.