A question for those who believe in Reincarnation

[hasbeen99]

Those who believe in reincarnation (multiple lives), what led you to this belief? Was it an experience you had? A feeling? Has someone revealed to you evidence of a past life through hypnosis? Please explain. :)

[lj4three]

Those who believe in reincarnation (multiple lives), what led you to this belief? Was it an experience you had? A feeling? Has someone revealed to you evidence of a past life through hypnosis? Please explain. :)

for me its logic and my religion. i believe there are too many events in one life for us to fully balance our souls- reincarnation is an opportunity or a reflection of our actions in past lives, to either recoup or suffer.

[hasbeen99]

for me its logic and my religion. i believe there are too many events in one life for us to fully balance our souls- reincarnation is an opportunity or a reflection of our actions in past lives, to either recoup or suffer.

Thanks, Lj. :) The word that caught my eye was reflection. Is that based on an inference at one's current life position and circumstances, or is there a way to actually retrieve memories from former lives?

[lj4three]

Thanks, Lj. :) The word that caught my eye was reflection. Is that based on an inference at one's current life position and circumstances, or is there a way to actually retrieve memories from former lives?

i wasn't inferring upon memory, but moreso your next life will reflect the deeds and actions you have committed in your past lives, to a large extent.

[TimTam]

for me it just doesnt make sense any other way. i dont believe completely in heaven or hell as described. but I dont think we go away and rot. I think it is like a sports game. You go in and come out at the coaches discretion until finally everyone comes out. what happens when everyone is gone i am not sure. I dont think deeds in your last life have a bearing on who or what you comeback as. i think its based on certain attributes that your soul (if thats what you want to call it) posses and can be utilised in different situations.

[Dukesuckgounc]

For me it becuase of Judaism in Judaism we believe in reincarnation .We allso believe in after life.When you are dead you go to a much more good life then this one

[hasbeen99]

i wasn't inferring upon memory, but moreso your next life will reflect the deeds and actions you have committed in your past lives, to a large extent.

In other words, if you're born into a life as a crippled beggar, would that force one to think, "Man, I must have royally screwed up in my last life, I'd better do better in this one"?

[hasbeen99]

for me it just doesnt make sense any other way. i dont believe completely in heaven or hell as described. but I dont think we go away and rot. I think it is like a sports game. You go in and come out at the coaches discretion until finally everyone comes out. what happens when everyone is gone i am not sure. I dont think deeds in your last life have a bearing on who or what you comeback as. i think its based on certain attributes that your soul (if thats what you want to call it) posses and can be utilised in different situations.


Not to be disrespectful or to ridicule, but are you saying you believe life is figuratively like the movie Groundhog Day to an extent? Again, I'm not attempting a joke, I'm trying to get a better understanding. :)

[hasbeen99]

For me it becuase of Judaism in Judaism we believe in reincarnation .We allso believe in after life.When you are dead you go to a much more good life then this one

But that 'next life' isn't like this one here, is it? Aren't you referring to a life with God in heaven, or on the new earth and the new Jerusalem? Or am I wrong?

[Chief Tony]

I think we are reincarnated multiple times in an attempt to improve upon previous lives.Hopefully we actually begin to live our lives according to the Golden Rule.There have been too many reports of past life memories and past life regressions.Here is a interesting site....http://home.btclick.com/scimah/Rebirth.htm

[Dukesuckgounc]

But that 'next life' isn't like this one here, is it? Aren't you referring to a life with God in heaven, or on the new earth and the new Jerusalem? Or am I wrong?Im referring to a life with God in heaven.Over there there is no War everyone is nice and good over there.

[Miss tery]

I do not believe there is any 'spark' of conscionsness which lives on after the physical body death.

We are the same as that road kill you swerve to avoid.

[ECILAM]

Another train of thought that might lead to reincarnation is the knowledge that energy, in any form, cannot be destroyed or cease to exist. It simply disburses and transitions to another form. Although we don't fully understand what is commonly called the "life-force," science knows that the brain and nervous system operate by a form of electricity.

Some people figure that when the body loses the life force, the life force has to go somewhere. And some of these people, through reflection, revelation, or whatever means, came to the idea of reincarnation.

For a phase, I briefly believed in reincarnation. This was when I was studying Rosicrucian philosophy and Western mysticism. Now, I see that was just another form of putting faith in an idea because I read it in a book and the idea appealed to me. The truth is there's really no way to prove it or disprove it, as is the case with so many theological and metaphysical ideas.

[lj4three]

In other words, if you're born into a life as a crippled beggar, would that force one to think, "Man, I must have royally screwed up in my last life, I'd better do better in this one"?

if you were hindu or believed in reincarnation, you would take the approach of improvement versus the "why me?" approach. at least thats what hinduism preaches.

[TimTam]

Not to be disrespectful or to ridicule, but are you saying you believe life is figuratively like the movie Groundhog Day to an extent? Again, I'm not attempting a joke, I'm trying to get a better understanding. :)
no offense taken. Groundhog Day would be repeating your life to make it perfect. I see it that we are born in different places on the universl timeline. my thoughts on reincarnation are similar to the structure of hindu belief except I dont feel that karma has any bearing on where or what you come back as. I think it is pretty random. other than as stated earlier the attributes which your "soul" possess. to simplify, if my "soul" has many of the attributes to mke me a good clutch leader and there will be an apocalyptic change in the next 20 years then I will be reborn in a position to help humanity get through this struggle or to take humanity down a path that is wrong but in then end will lead toward the end times.

[Southern_Yankee]

Im not sure if I belive in all this...but if reincarnation is the way it goes down...I want to come back as one of my cats.

Tough subject. Wasnt satan in the form of a snake when he tempted Eve to eat the apple? That sounds kinda like reincarnation right there, to me.

[builder]

I was "shown" my past lives through a type of hypnosis. But I was also totally aware of what was going on around me at the same time. It was not a dream or anything like that. Too long a story to recreate, but I walked away believing that what had been shown to me had happened at some point. Plus, there were things that were said to me in that meeting that no one could have known. Things that I had done while I was alone, in another country. Thoughts and such that came back. Words that were more memories than assumptions. Kinda like faith, it's impossible to describe unless you've been there.

[kshead]

I was "shown" my past lives through a type of hypnosis. But I was also totally aware of what was going on around me at the same time. It was not a dream or anything like that. Too long a story to recreate, but I walked away believing that what had been shown to me had happened at some point. Plus, there were things that were said to me in that meeting that no one could have known. Things that I had done while I was alone, in another country. Thoughts and such that came back. Words that were more memories than assumptions. Kinda like faith, it's impossible to describe unless you've been there.

You thought you were once Cleopatra, didn't you?

[builder]

You thought you were once Cleopatra, didn't you?

Shirley McLane fucked us up with that sort of talk. I was no one special in any of those lives. I had some that I'd done bad things. Some were good. But none were so special that I would have been known internationally.

And quit trying to be a smart ass in this forum. Crawl back under your R&R rock. Thank you.

[hasbeen99]

I was hoping you'd respond to this thread, Builder. :) Your previous posts about believing in some form of energy or life force led me to believe you might be open to this topic. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. :)

[hasbeen99]

Im referring to a life with God in heaven.

That's what I thought. Thanks, Dukey. :)

Interesting perspective, though. In that regard, it seems as though Islam teaches the same kind of reincarnation. I could be mistaken, though. I need to read more of the Qur'an. :)

[hasbeen99]

I was "shown" my past lives through a type of hypnosis.

If you don't mind me asking, what prompted you to go to a hypnotist? Did you have some kind of flashback?

[TimTam]

That's what I thought. Thanks, Dukey. :)

Interesting perspective, though. In that regard, it seems as though Islam teaches the same kind of reincarnation. I could be mistaken, though. I need to read more of the Qur'an. :)
you are correct sort of...its also kind of like Christianity where you die but wake up with God.half continuation half rebirth

[hasbeen99]

you are correct sort of...its also kind of like Christianity where you die but wake up with God.half continuation half rebirth

Yeah. I was pondering that, but couldn't quite find the words. Thanks, Tim. :)

[builder]

If you don't mind me asking, what prompted you to go to a hypnotist? Did you have some kind of flashback?


Actually, he found me. And that leads me to believe that what I saw was more real than if I had gone searching for someone. There was no money involved, no sex, nothing. Just two people talking and learning. It was really cool at first. We sat on the sofa facing one another. He just talked and told me to remember as far back as I could. Save that image and think about what it means. I found myself sitting on a mountain that I couldn't recognize. There were trees with some weird fruit, sheep, and fog. Before I could figure out where I had seen this before, he told me....It's Spain. The western coast near the French border. He didn't know that I had ever been to Spain. He couldn't have. We were total strangers. As the image unfolded in my mind, he told me what I was seeing just seconds after. It was like he was narrating the story but a few seconds late. Then he went to another one. I saw his face change into that of a small black child. I knew that I had done something to cause harm to the child. I didn't know what. He told me that it wasn't my fault and that it would have happened anyway. Apparently, the child died early in his life. I owned him at some point. When he told me I wasn't to blame, it felt like the weight of the world had been lifted off my shoulders. Another one found me in some kind of encampment where I was dressed in rags looking for food.


The whole time, David sat there and narrated what I was seeing. I wish I had video taped it. He also showed me how to read auras and watch for shifts in them when people are lying. There's only been 2 people that I haven't been able to get a "vibe" on. One was the last ex. The other was my best friend in college. Neither seemed to produce the lights that encompass all the other people I meet.

I told the new beau one night while we were lying in bed that his aura was very clean and bright and crisp. He thought I was joking. Then I was able to run my hands across his chest and stomach and make him feel what I was feeling. Passing energies from one person to another. He found it mildly arousing, but at the same time, I think I was able to express to him what he means to me without words. Things moved along quite well after that night.

As for the past lives thing, deja vu is said to be a version of a past life. When I learned Spanish, it wasn't so much that I learned new words, but felt more like I was remembering things. Once surrounded by it in Spain, I felt like I could understand more than I should have been able to. Speaking and writing were problematic at times, but recognition of words and phrases came easy.

It's all about experieences for me. Nothing that I was taught or coerced into doing. Just simple tricks of the mind (remember, we only use a small percentage of our brains - what else might be stored in there?).

[hasbeen99]

Wow. :saywhat:

Sounds like an incredible experience. Did you drink it all in at once, or did it take you a while to 'digest' it?

[builder]

Wow. :saywhat:

Sounds like an incredible experience. Did you drink it all in at once, or did it take you a while to 'digest' it?


It took a lot of time. I thought about it a lot trying to discredit it somehow. Tried to remember if they were my thoughts or if he was just playing off my expressions, thoughts, etc. But in the end I came to the conclusion that what had happened was not a normal occurence. He said that I had a gift that few people he had met had. He told me of all the spirits that I had seen and had talked to him. He knew about a ghost I had seen in an apartment I had lived in. He knew that I had protectors looking out for me.

I did a little more research and started paying more attention to my dejavu moments. I try now to capture exactly what it is that's causing it instead of just letting it go.

[slydevl]

It took a lot of time. I thought about it a lot trying to discredit it somehow. Tried to remember if they were my thoughts or if he was just playing off my expressions, thoughts, etc. But in the end I came to the conclusion that what had happened was not a normal occurence. He said that I had a gift that few people he had met had. He told me of all the spirits that I had seen and had talked to him. He knew about a ghost I had seen in an apartment I had lived in. He knew that I had protectors looking out for me.

I did a little more research and started paying more attention to my dejavu moments. I try now to capture exactly what it is that's causing it instead of just letting it go.

The last time we had dinner, were you able to see my aura giving you the finger?

[VOR]

The last time we had dinner, were you able to see my aura giving you the finger?

Why do you think he comes back for more, he felt it too.

[builder]

The last time we had dinner, were you able to see my aura giving you the finger?

Honestly, I don't try often to see those sorts of things. I know people based on their actions. You are a dick. You have a lovely wife and a beautiful home, though.

[hasbeen99]

Builder, was the man you spoke with a hypnotist, or a psychic? Or both?

Also, I'd like to hear more about your ability to read auras. How do they differ from one person to the next? Do they vary in intensity, brightness, or color? If so, what do those differences mean? You said you weren't able to read Topher's and one other. What does that mean?