View Full Version : Maybe the nonreligious people such as myself...
barry49s
04-04-04, 12:25 PM
...should stay off of this forum and let the closeminded, far rightwing conservatives pat each other on the back.
Is that what you guys want? :feedback: :)
...should stay off of this forum and let the closeminded, far rightwing conservatives pat each other on the back.
Is that what you guys want? :feedback: :)personally i feel that the judgemental jackass closeminded non religious people can go with the closeminded, far rightwing conservativesback to RnR and let the nonjudgemental understanding openminded no religious people and openminded religious people hear for discussion but thats just me.
FreakOnA_Leash
04-04-04, 01:39 PM
not sure if I understood that but it sounded good... :thinking:
Miss tery
04-04-04, 01:39 PM
personally i feel that the judgemental jackass closeminded non religious people can go with the closeminded, far rightwing conservativesback to RnR and let the nonjudgemental understanding openminded no religious people and openminded religious people hear for discussion but thats just me.
But then HB would be here all by himself.
jbghostrat
04-04-04, 01:49 PM
personally i feel that the judgemental jackass closeminded non religious people can go with the closeminded, far rightwing conservativesback to RnR and let the nonjudgemental understanding openminded no religious people and openminded religious people hear for discussion but thats just me.
Timtam, that's the best thing you have ever said on TBR!
Honeygirl
04-05-04, 01:54 AM
...should stay off of this forum and let the closeminded, far rightwing conservatives pat each other on the back.
Is that what you guys want? :feedback: :)
Well, I kind of view it like this Barry...I have NO interest in the football / sports forums - so I just don't go there. I'm sorry that you've apparently felt that the R&S forum hasn't spiked enough debate for you, or you've found it closeminded - but for many others (me included), it's been an interesting place to share views and opinions. I don't mean to sound hateful, but if you're non-religious - why do you come in here? It's sort of like me going to the Football forum to whine about how sucky Football is :). Again - I don't want to be rude - I'm just curious.
I think we should all eat chocolate.
barry49s
04-05-04, 08:50 AM
Well, I kind of view it like this Barry...I have NO interest in the football / sports forums - so I just don't go there. I'm sorry that you've apparently felt that the R&S forum hasn't spiked enough debate for you, or you've found it closeminded - but for many others (me included), it's been an interesting place to share views and opinions. I don't mean to sound hateful, but if you're non-religious - why do you come in here? It's sort of like me going to the Football forum to whine about how sucky Football is :). Again - I don't want to be rude - I'm just curious.
I just stumbled across this forum for the 1st time yesterday. It seems that a couple of the threads have to do with what to post and what not to post on this forum. You have to admit, that is unusual for TBR.
You just gave me the answer I suspected. Carry on, I will leave. :gmorning: :xyzwave:
mathmajors
04-05-04, 10:01 AM
You just gave me the answer I suspected. Carry on, I will leave. :gmorning: :xyzwave:
This forum is meant to be an exception, just like Preps is. And not everyone on here is closed-minded. And going away isn't going to open any minds.
This forum is meant to be an exception, just like Preps is. And not everyone on here is closed-minded. And going away isn't going to open any minds.
If you have intelligent discourse in mind start it, if you want to spew, the you got R&R.
The world's going to end soon anyways.
The world's going to end soon anyways.
She getting tired of you?
Honeygirl
04-05-04, 01:44 PM
I just stumbled across this forum for the 1st time yesterday. It seems that a couple of the threads have to do with what to post and what not to post on this forum. You have to admit, that is unusual for TBR.
You just gave me the answer I suspected. Carry on, I will leave. :gmorning: :xyzwave:
Yes, it is unusual for TBR and I think because it's about R&S, there needs to be some respect and tolerance - hence the no wobbly zone. I didn't mean for you to sod off Barry - I was honestly curious :(. Had you been more specific about what threads you were referring to (like you have been in this post), I may have answered better.
:mercy: Barry's left and it's because I'm a bitch :mercy:.
vpkozel
04-05-04, 01:48 PM
:mercy: Barry's left and it's because I'm a bitch :mercy:.
I wouldn't say it was because of it, but it was definitely a major factor..... :D
Yes, it is unusual for TBR and I think because it's about R&S, there needs to be some respect and tolerance - hence the no wobbly zone. I didn't mean for you to sod off Barry - I was honestly curious :(. Had you been more specific about what threads you were referring to (like you have been in this post), I may have answered better.
:mercy: Barry's left and it's because I'm a bitch :mercy:.
No I think he's into the bitch part, just not being ableto geti t off here bothered him.
Honeygirl
04-05-04, 02:03 PM
Cheers you two. I can always count on my old mates VP and VOR to put me right when I'm having a wobbly :apfbbt:. ;).
vpkozel
04-05-04, 02:07 PM
Cheers you two. I can always count on my old mates VP and VOR to put me right when I'm having a wobbly :apfbbt:. ;).
You know you lauhged.
I think this is just going to be a problem for R&S for a while - people coming in specifically to be dramatic about someone disagreeing with them in principle.
Meanwhile, people with good intentions will try to take them at face value and answer questions regardless of what the intent of the question was, and get nothing for those efforts.
I think this is just going to be a problem for R&S for a while - people coming in specifically to be dramatic about someone disagreeing with them in principle.
Meanwhile, people with good intentions will try to take them at face value and answer questions regardless of what the intent of the question was, and get nothing for those efforts.
yea...i thought this when i saw honey's first post. I didnt think the why bother posting here line was tactful but on the whole I thought the exact same thing.
Honeygirl
04-06-04, 02:48 AM
You know you lauhged.
Yea - alright, I'll give you that one :).
yea...i thought this when i saw honey's first post. I didnt think the why bother posting here line was tactful but on the whole I thought the exact same thing.
I didn't think I was being that tackless - I did, after all, use the football analogy which I hoped would soften the "why do you come in here?" question. To me, it was an honest question - but again, I can only apologise if it came off as tackless or offensive. I appreciate that for whatever reason, the R&S forum aggravates some people. However, it is a religious forum. Barry stated that he is non-religious...so I wondered why he came in here. Did he think he'd come in here and find threads on how to remove stains from a dinner jacket?
hasbeen99
04-06-04, 12:29 PM
Did he think he'd come in here and find threads on how to remove stains from a dinner jacket?
Club soda? :D
Miss tery
04-06-04, 06:58 PM
I do not think there is any civil way for the religious and athiests to carry on a discussion about religion. We can discuss moral values, but that is about it.
Reminds me of what I was taught by my parents-not that I paid them a whole lot of attention-"If you do not have anything nice to say, don't say anything". Which pretty much describes the direction of this forum about athiests.
hasbeen99
04-06-04, 07:34 PM
I do not think there is any civil way for the religious and athiests to carry on a discussion about religion. We can discuss moral values, but that is about it.
It all depends on intent. If either side's intent is to exact some measure of judgment or vengeance on the other for some past wrong, then I agree with you. But that principle isn't limited to religion. Could be anything. If someone's pissed off all the time at someone else's guilt by association, I agree with you -- it's just about impossible to stay civil for long.
But if the two sides are comfortable and confident in their beliefs and hold no animosity toward each other, there's no reason there can't be a civil exchange of beliefs. It all boils down to a choice, really, just like in any other discussion.
vpkozel
04-06-04, 08:17 PM
I do not think there is any civil way for the religious and athiests to carry on a discussion about religion. We can discuss moral values, but that is about it.
The only person that seems to be having problems in this forum is you. Of course, you have made it your stated goal not to behave in this forum and are generally condescining towards any opinion that does not agree with yours. Although you are obviously intellegent, you do not engage in intellegent exchanges. IMO, you are doing these things so as to prove to yourself that all those that disagree with you are hostile.
You seem to block out teh parts where you have quite a bit to do with bringing on the hostility.
Hasbeens: Please feel free to edit or delete, but please know that post was not made in anger or to hurt miss tery, but I have simply grown tired of her constant pursuit of victimhood.
[QUOTE=Miss tery]I do not think there is any civil way for the religious and athiests to carry on a discussion about religion. We can discuss moral values, but that is about it.[QUOTE]
I'm an unbeliever and I discuss these things civilly all the time. The nature of the discussion is determined by the baggage each participant brings to the table. It's possible to have a point-by-counterpoint debate without getting angry or taking it personally.
UNCfever
04-07-04, 07:44 AM
I do not think there is any civil way for the religious and athiests to carry on a discussion about religion. We can discuss moral values, but that is about it.
Reminds me of what I was taught by my parents-not that I paid them a whole lot of attention-"If you do not have anything nice to say, don't say anything". Which pretty much describes the direction of this forum about athiests.
So what type of religious beliefs did your parents have that you were raised around?
vpkozel
04-07-04, 08:34 AM
I'm an unbeliever and I discuss these things civilly all the time. The nature of the discussion is determined by the baggage each participant brings to the table. It's possible to have a point-by-counterpoint debate without getting angry or taking it personally.
Egg Zachary.
hasbeen99
04-07-04, 02:06 PM
Hasbeens: Please feel free to edit or delete, but please know that post was not made in anger or to hurt miss tery, but I have simply grown tired of her constant pursuit of victimhood.
No need. You said nothing she hasn't said about herself, and you did so in a polite manner. Thank you. :)
plutosgirl
04-08-04, 06:37 PM
Did he think he'd come in here and find threads on how to remove stains from a dinner jacket?
:soda: :rofl: :applause:
I`m just trying to understand why vor throws his posts in. :huh:
Miss tery
04-08-04, 09:07 PM
[QUOTE=Miss tery]I do not think there is any civil way for the religious and athiests to carry on a discussion about religion. We can discuss moral values, but that is about it.[QUOTE]
I'm an unbeliever and I discuss these things civilly all the time. The nature of the discussion is determined by the baggage each participant brings to the table. It's possible to have a point-by-counterpoint debate without getting angry or taking it personally.
When one's weltanschauung precludes the possibility of the supernatural, that tends to eliminate the civility on the believers side.
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